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Post by MungO on Oct 10, 2021 9:51:29 GMT
  Not much on these lists outside the top 5 really. |
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Post by osoldest on Oct 10, 2021 11:52:11 GMT
Tremendous fight but I thought boxing wise that was the worse I have seen from Fury. There was no head movement, and he failed to utilise his superior boxing skills, instead relying on sheer power to grind wilder down. Several times there were openings that fury would have seized on in the past but he failed to get his punches off and I guess this was as a result of the extra weight.
Got to say that Unlike Joshua , Fury has a fighters heart and he simply refuses to get beaten.
Credit to Wilder too as he showed a good chin and was dangerous to the end.
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Post by harlowo on Oct 10, 2021 19:39:23 GMT
Disappointing to see pockets of empty seats. Americans just don't seem to care much for boxing at the moment. Even more so if it isn't US Vs US. Shame that if it had been over here it’s a sellout no doubt. |
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Post by Thor on Oct 10, 2021 22:46:13 GMT
Sounds about right. I don't see any of the next level of Joyce, Dubois, etc getting anywhere near for the time being. No one wants a part of Joyce, chin like concrete, can bang and won’t stop. Dubois similar although Joyce did for him and it will be interesting how he moves forwards now especially after to two recents changes in coaches. so I make you right they will need to wait, but fury will not want to fight Joyce that’s for sure. |
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Post by jimbo1983 on Oct 11, 2021 9:23:58 GMT
Sounds about right. I don't see any of the next level of Joyce, Dubois, etc getting anywhere near for the time being. No one wants a part of Joyce, chin like concrete, can bang and won’t stop.  Dubois similar although Joyce did for him and it will be interesting how he moves forwards now especially after to two recents changes in coaches. so I make you right they will need to wait, but fury will not want to fight Joyce that’s for sure. Not sure I agree. I like Joyce but I think the top 4 beat him tbh. Uysk will out box him. I agree he takes some punches but Uysk won't need that to beat him. I also think fury is very good technically and will outsmart Joyce. Wilder impressed me the other night. Joyce wilder would be an interesting match up and would be good to see how good Joyce chin is. I would have wilder knicking that. Again I would see Joshua out boxing Joyce as well. White vs Joyce would be a logical match up. Dubois I need to see again. The Joyce loss I think will hurt for a long time. |
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Post by osoldest on Oct 11, 2021 9:51:44 GMT
Jimbo, can’t really argue with that assessment. Joyce is rightly named the juggernaut, he keeps plodding forward and has a very good chin, but he is one dimensional and takes far too many punches.
I agree that usyk would bamboozle him and fury would be too smart . White would be decent match but I would back white to outwork him. He would be outclassed by Joshua but could well outgame him as Joshua is a good on top fighter who doesn’t like risking getting hit.
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Post by Thor on Oct 11, 2021 19:17:58 GMT
Jimbo, can’t really argue with that assessment. Joyce is rightly named the juggernaut, he keeps plodding forward and has a very good chin, but he is one dimensional and takes far too many punches. I agree that usyk would bamboozle him and fury would be too smart . White would be decent match but I would back white to outwork him. He would be outclassed by Joshua but could well outgame him as Joshua is a good on top fighter who doesn’t like risking getting hit. Both make good points, and I'm sure you're both aware that Joyce has already fought Usyk and it was a very tight and certainly contested fight. Its on YouTube if you've not seen it. |
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Post by jimbo1983 on Oct 11, 2021 20:00:21 GMT
Jimbo, can’t really argue with that assessment. Joyce is rightly named the juggernaut, he keeps plodding forward and has a very good chin, but he is one dimensional and takes far too many punches. I agree that usyk would bamboozle him and fury would be too smart . White would be decent match but I would back white to outwork him. He would be outclassed by Joshua but could well outgame him as Joshua is a good on top fighter who doesn’t like risking getting hit. Both make good points, and I'm sure you're both aware that Joyce has already fought Usyk and it was a very tight and certainly contested fight. Its on YouTube if you've not seen it. I did not know that but I have just watched it and correct me if I am wrong but uysk won. On all the judges scorecards too. Which is what I said would happen. Uysk is technically brilliant. Doesn't have a hugely strong punch at this level so won't knock too many boxers out and especially Joyce but beats him on points as he is a better boxer. Uysk gets better all the time he has only had 20 odd fights and still has a lot to learn. A big bruiser type might beat him and I thought that was how aj was going to approach it but he seemed to want to beat uysk at his own game and we know how that turned out. |
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Post by MungO on Oct 11, 2021 21:46:47 GMT
Some good conversation here.
Name your top ten or top few heavyweights..
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Post by jimbo1983 on Oct 12, 2021 9:59:36 GMT
Some good conversation here. Name your top ten or top few heavyweights.. At the moment or all time. 😂 At the moment I would go Fury Wilder Uysk AJ White Joyce Parker Chisora Ruiz Number ten could be anyone really. |
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