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Post by osoldest on Nov 28, 2023 20:31:14 GMT
The bloody offside rule to forde. Week after week, game after game he runs offside. It’s not just the amount of times he is caught offside he also nullifies our attack time and again because we recognise he is offside so don’t pass to him.
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Post by mrb on Nov 28, 2023 21:02:49 GMT
He’s done it again😂.To be fair he’s getting no help from his senior team mates
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Post by dohnut on Nov 28, 2023 21:12:31 GMT
Got an idea of a Christmas present for him.
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Post by Thor on Nov 28, 2023 21:27:10 GMT
He knows the offside rule that I'm sure of. What he lacks is awareness of his position, where he is on the pitch in relation to others. Just watch him closely and you'll very rarely if ever see him move his head to check his shoulder for a defender or left and right for his positional place.
In.closing his awareness is very poor hence why he keeps getting caught offside.
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Post by mrb on Nov 28, 2023 21:29:37 GMT
He knows the offside rule that I'm sure of. What he lacks is awareness of his position, where he is on the pitch in relation to others. Just watch him closely and you'll very rarely if ever see him move his head to check his shoulder for a defender or left and right for his positional place. In.closing his awareness is very poor hence why he keeps getting caught offside. I mentioned earlier he has no awareness 👍🏾 |
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Post by Thor on Nov 28, 2023 21:43:25 GMT
He knows the offside rule that I'm sure of. What he lacks is awareness of his position, where he is on the pitch in relation to others. Just watch him closely and you'll very rarely if ever see him move his head to check his shoulder for a defender or left and right for his positional place. In.closing his awareness is very poor hence why he keeps getting caught offside. I mentioned earlier he has no awareness 👍🏾 where? Not in this thread. I've not watched the game and read through each thread one by one in order of oldest to newest. The match thread is the last one to read. I did say ages ago I'd bin him and send him back, whilst he scored a good goal on Sat I'd still bin him. |
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Post by mrb on Nov 28, 2023 21:47:46 GMT
I didn’t say in this thread.i mentioned earlier in the match thread 👍🏾
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 22:22:47 GMT
Who cares when.
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Post by Fisch on Nov 29, 2023 8:55:56 GMT
Forde has a main remit - get goals.To do that, he has to make forward runs from 4-5 yards from our side of the offside line. This gives the man in possession about 3 seconds to see the run and make the pass for Forde to run on to. If the pass doesn't come or is delayed then he runs into offside territory and has to check back - then the pass arrives and he gets stick for being offside.
This takes preparation, organisation and a great deal of practice. I don't blame Forde, he's doing his bit but he is the fall guy when the "run and pass" coordination isn't well executed.
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Post by osoldest on Nov 29, 2023 9:03:14 GMT
Fish, I take your point that the pass has to be made at the right time but come on, he just runs beyond the last defender every time we attack. I counted 3 times when archibald was attacking down the left and forde was at least 3 yards offside.
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Post by alfresco on Nov 29, 2023 9:58:35 GMT
Part of this isnt Fordes fault. We take so long to deliver that ball through to him, he's run offside.
If we delivered the ball quicker, it would be very different, but its all part of the fannying around we do constantly, which im getting fed up with tbh
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Post by redshank on Nov 29, 2023 11:53:55 GMT
Part of this isnt Fordes fault. We take so long to deliver that ball through to him, he's run offside. If we delivered the ball quicker, it would be very different, but its all part of the fannying around we do constantly, which im getting fed up with tbh Agree with your comment.If we played the ball quicker with less back passes we could do much better,so many of our passes are slow or behind the player intended and the momentum stops.It is probably an easier game for the opposition to deal with and take advantage of. |
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Post by mrb on Nov 29, 2023 12:20:23 GMT
Forde has a main remit - get goals.To do that, he has to make forward runs from 4-5 yards from our side of the offside line. This gives the man in possession about 3 seconds to see the run and make the pass for Forde to run on to. If the pass doesn't come or is delayed then he runs into offside territory and has to check back - then the pass arrives and he gets stick for being offside. This takes preparation, organisation and a great deal of practice. I don't blame Forde, he's doing his bit but he is the fall guy when the "run and pass" coordination isn't well executed. Fair point |
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Post by Fisch on Nov 29, 2023 13:42:55 GMT
Fish, I take your point that the pass has to be made at the right time but come on, he just runs beyond the last defender every time we attack. I counted 3 times when archibald was attacking down the left and forde was at least 3 yards offside. I saw at least a couple of those last night, you're right. Somehow, him and the midfield 'supply' has to be better coordinated. I worry that he stands to close to the off-side line and is too quickly in an offside position when he makes his run, the guy with the ball has no time to see the run and make the pass. |
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Post by dohnut on Nov 29, 2023 17:38:24 GMT
Some confusion as to why the offside free kick was taken in our half when you cannot be offside in our half. DD made mention of this in his commentary questioning this.
As I understand it there is no issue being offside when the ball is played forward. The foul only occurs for example when you play the ball. So if running back from an offside position then play tne ball in your half, the foul then happens in your half.
Think that how it works.
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Post by osoldest on Nov 30, 2023 8:55:07 GMT
Dohnut, not so. The offences is committed if you are offside when the ball is played to you regardless where you actually make contact, so the free kick should be taken at the point you are offside.
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Post by Thor on Nov 30, 2023 10:13:01 GMT
If you are in the opposition half and are in an offside position and move towards the ball and receive it in your own half then the offside offence is given at the point of contact with the ball or any movement towards the ball which might stop the opposition from playing the ball. The indirect free kick is given at that point in your own half if that's where the offence occurred.
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Post by haroldwoodo on Nov 30, 2023 10:36:51 GMT
If you are in the opposition half and are in an offside position and move towards the ball and receive it in your own half then the offside offence is given at the point of contact with the ball or any movement towards the ball which might stop the opposition from playing the ball. The indirect free kick is given at that point in your own half if that's where the offence occurred. I've spent the last two weeks explaining exactly this on Twitter. A lot of people don't realise this and just say "You can't be offside in your own half" etc. |
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Post by duvb on Nov 30, 2023 12:04:41 GMT
If you are in the opposition half and are in an offside position and move towards the ball and receive it in your own half then the offside offence is given at the point of contact with the ball or any movement towards the ball which might stop the opposition from playing the ball. The indirect free kick is given at that point in your own half if that's where the offence occurred. I've spent the last two weeks explaining exactly this on Twitter. A lot of people don't realise this and just say "You can't be offside in your own half" etc. This is 100% correct |
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Post by dohnut on Nov 30, 2023 17:31:49 GMT
If you are in the opposition half and are in an offside position and move towards the ball and receive it in your own half then the offside offence is given at the point of contact with the ball or any movement towards the ball which might stop the opposition from playing the ball. The indirect free kick is given at that point in your own half if that's where the offence occurred. Thats was my understanding Thor. Better explanation than mine. |
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