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Post by Thor on Jan 20, 2024 20:40:14 GMT
agreed, but the manager is never on the field of play and to pull the player back whilst trying to take a throw means he's on the field of play. I said in my next post a Red and a Yellow was shown, I think PT got the yellow although it could have been RW getting it then mouthing off? He shouldn’t have done either! He’s not learning his lesson absolutely agree, just saying what I saw to get him sent off. However, I am pleased we have a manager with so much passion for his team and club, as a player how could you not want to play for him? |
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Post by Thor on Jan 20, 2024 20:41:13 GMT
He shouldn’t have done either! He’s not learning his lesson The yellow went to the Bolton assistant manager.
I didn't see Richie pulling him back but standing in his way and pointing to where the throw-in should have been taken.
OK that sorts that out then it's a straight red, is it one game ban then? |
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Post by buffalobill on Jan 20, 2024 20:51:33 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed the game.
Bolton are a top outfit for this level, but we matched them all over the pitch and I can’t think of one player who put in an average performance.
We got lucky with the header against the post, but on the balance of play we looked the more dangerous side and Agyei showed his class when he got the opportunity.
A totally professional performance.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 20, 2024 20:56:06 GMT
That was a superb game of football, I'm not sure what Dohnut was watching today. That was the best full back display I've seen us produce this season, the pair of them were outstanding. Some were calling for Sweeney to be binned and got rid of. After that performance against a genuine top team in this division I think some humble pie is in order. Ethan is going from strength to strength. Happe and Beccles were immense in the middle up against a former Premier league striker and kept him quiet and when the 9 came on who was a handful they dealt with the pair of them very well. Our midfield worked so hard today and really kept up the press behind the front three which allowed us to stiffle their play which in turn allowed us to impose ourselves on them. Idris again was immense. The front three worked so hard on the press the full backs time and again were pushed, harried and forced into going long down the channels with what you would call hit and hope passes. Ritchie I saw a yellow and a red shown was they both to RW or was the yellow to PT? One thing is certain you can't touch a player and pulling their man back was silly even if it were our throw. The ref I thought wanted to be the star of the show. Several times his body language was saying to the players "really, did that really happen" waving and gesturing his arms like a conductor when talking to a player about a decision. He got so many wrong it was unreal. I thought overall that was a top performance from the team today and the game was a good advert for league 1. Proper buzzing tonight. Thats fine and is appreciated but for all that we created nothing of note especially in the first half. Lots of huff and puff, plenty of effort and no end result. Other than making sure they created nothing either. And littered with misplaced passes. The stats don’t lie. The first half was totally devoid of goalmouth action. The second started better. Not an action packed game, just one where the teams were successful in making sure chances were limited. Defences ruled, mostly. |
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Post by buffalobill on Jan 20, 2024 21:04:33 GMT
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Post by haroldwoodo on Jan 20, 2024 21:21:04 GMT
The Bolton fans are very upset on social media. Losing to "Leyton f***ing Orient" hasn't gone down well 😂 Yo hwo is there a possible link |
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Post by ostralia on Jan 20, 2024 22:24:39 GMT
Goodness, what a pleasant surprise this result was. we really are on a good run of form at the moment. Long may it continue.
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Post by SW O on Jan 20, 2024 22:50:53 GMT
Don't want to tempt fate but in the 1988/9 season we were 14th in mid January. Is Kevin Campbell still available?
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Post by ostralia on Jan 21, 2024 0:44:52 GMT
Just say the highlights. Jeez, that was a bad miss with the header by their guy in the first half.
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Post by danos29 on Jan 21, 2024 6:17:11 GMT
Another superb effort. Two words stand out from that game. Fluidity and bravery.
Like last week, I think the mindset of the players believing they are good enough has given us the freedom to play the style of football that is very reminiscent of last season.
Simply knowing and trusting from your players that Dan and Omar are good enough changes the whole dynamic of our play as they both are. The confidence on the ball Omar portrayed yesterday was as good as I’ve ever seen from him so a huge shout out first of all.
Secondly, a man who hasn’t had a sniff for months having been integral throughout last years campaign- Jayden Sweeney. Yesterday he was absolutely superb. Brilliant in fact and highlighted whilst being on a yellow (stupidly again)making a last ditch sliding tackle to prevent a one on one. Bravo to you Mr Sweeney.
Dan Happe - there’s a reason he refused to sign anything more than a one year contract. I believe he’s good enough to make another step up and that has been there to see yet again. Hats off Dan. Lingy, get the gold pen out and offer the man whatever pennies we have left and contract extend that man up asap.
All in all, what’s showing is trusting in the style to play is evident in the last month and belief that we’re good enough to do it. Superb.
Finally-
Dan Agyei, you are a beast of a man. If we had him all season along with Graham, goodness know where we’d be now.
Up the Os.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jan 21, 2024 9:34:52 GMT
He pulled the player back by his shirt, you can't do that. If a player did it I doubt he would be sent off. Two wrongs don't make a right though ! |
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Post by alfresco on Jan 21, 2024 10:11:52 GMT
With regard to RWs red card, I can say ive never seen anything like that, in football ever before. I wonder if there's a specific thing in the rules about that, and the punishment for it?
Why didnt the ref give Richie a yellow? I would love to know the refs reasoning for giving a red, but obviously, we'll never know
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Post by redintheface on Jan 21, 2024 10:14:12 GMT
Nearly home. 30 minutes for us. Being picked up at the station helps. Just about thawed out, tired, hungry. Hey but what the heck. Worth every hassle. Not much of a game but got better but a fantastic result. And for what it’s worth it don’t matter about the rights and wrongs of the situation RW needs to learn to button it. Set an example. You’re right dohnut. It wasn’t a great game but it was a terrific result which was well deserved. I thought we were the more positive of the two teams and although Bolton probably had the two best chances if you don’t take’em , you don’t win! Silly red card for Wellens as you say. Why he wants to get involved in a throw in on half way is beyond me tbh. |
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Post by dohnut on Jan 21, 2024 10:29:11 GMT
With regard to RWs red card, I can say ive never seen anything like that, in football ever before. I wonder if there's a specific thing in the rules about that, and the punishment for it? Why didnt the ref give Richie a yellow? I would love to know the refs reasoning for giving a red, but obviously, we'll never know There is a specific rule that prevents the bench from interfering or slowing down play. Straight red. (Law 12). The referee was right, RW was wrong, the red was justified. The match officials are there to manage the game. Sometimes they get it wrong! Sometimes the players get it wrong! Sometimes the manager gets it wrong. Like it or not. Thats life. Interesting that we thought the referee was poor, so do many Bolton fans. So at least he was consistent in his crappery. Said it before. The manager and his coaches need to set an example. Irritating things happen every match and it is wholly unprofessional for the boss to fail to hold his anger to such a level where yellows and reds are dished out. How can he try and maintain discipline amongst the players if he can’t do it himself. Talking of not knowing the laws. Being in an offside position is not an offence and the Lino will not flag, unless the said player gets involved with play. There can be a time delay between a player being offside and an offence being committed. Hence why it’s possible to be blown up in you own half. So you cannot judge an offside offence at the time the ball is kicked, there is no offence, only when the said player gets involved in play. I wish the guy a few seats behind me realised that. Moaning at the Lino’s for being slow when they were correctly applying the laws. |
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Post by redshank on Jan 21, 2024 12:20:04 GMT
Walked to the station with the Bolton fans being very precious,much like the Charlton fans after being beat by Leyton Orient.They think of us as a nothing club,just need to turn up and we roll over.
All the games in the Football League are hard fought as we well know.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 21, 2024 12:39:21 GMT
Nearly home. 30 minutes for us. Being picked up at the station helps. Just about thawed out, tired, hungry. Hey but what the heck. Worth every hassle. Not much of a game but got better but a fantastic result. And for what it’s worth it don’t matter about the rights and wrongs of the situation RW needs to learn to button it. Set an example. You’re right dohnut. It wasn’t a great game but it was a terrific result which was well deserved. I thought we were the more positive of the two teams and although Bolton probably had the two best chances if you don’t take’em , you don’t win! Silly red card for Wellens as you say. Why he wants to get involved in a throw in on half way is beyond me tbh. I loved the result. And to be honest the effort from our team. They were up for it and I’d struggle to criticise any of them. For me it’s always result first and we got a good result. Went home happy, cold but happy. |
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Post by osoldest on Jan 21, 2024 14:33:46 GMT
Dohnut you are wrong. You cannot be offside if you are in your own half when the ball is played. Offsides are only operative if the player receiving the ball is in an offside position when the ball is played to him and if he is in his own half when the ball is played he is onside regardless of his position when he receives the ball.
Sorry but it is you that is confused. A player could be offside in the opponents half when the ball is played to him and he runs back to his own half to receive it , he will then be offside even though he was in his own half when getting the ball, but that is different. Offsides are determined by the receiving player’s position when the ball is played.
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Post by mrb on Jan 21, 2024 14:50:48 GMT
Walked to the station with the Bolton fans being very precious,much like the Charlton fans after being beat by Leyton Orient.They think of us as a nothing club,just need to turn up and we roll over. All the games in the Football League are hard fought as we well know. Fcuk em! |
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Post by dohnut on Jan 21, 2024 19:15:34 GMT
Dohnut you are wrong. You cannot be offside if you are in your own half when the ball is played. Offsides are only operative if the player receiving the ball is in an offside position when the ball is played to him and if he is in his own half when the ball is played he is onside regardless of his position when he receives the ball. Sorry but it is you that is confused. A player could be offside in the opponents half when the ball is played to him and he runs back to his own half to receive it , he will then be offside even though he was in his own half when getting the ball, but that is different. Offsides are determined by the receiving player’s position when the ball is played. Didn’t say you could be offside in your own half. Of course you can’t. But if you are in an offside position in the opposition half when the ball is played but run into your own half to play the ball, the offence occurs when you are in your own half playing the ball We are talking short distances here. This is what happened a few weeks ago exactly as I described and caused a lot of comments such as yours. Including criticism of the officials The offensive is not where you are when the ball is played but when you play (or affect play) the said ball. Playing a forward ball when players are in an offside position is not an offside offence. Why players in an offside position often won’t try to play the ball. It is for that very reason linesmen don’t flag or are often criticised as being late to flag. No offence has been committed. The offence only happens when the ball is played (also interfering with play to be fully correct) and the free kick awarded at the point. Offsides may be determined (but no offence committed) when the ball is played but the offence and subsequent free kick is determined by where the player is when he plays the ball. Don’t play the ball, no offside offence. |
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Post by Thor on Jan 21, 2024 19:17:37 GMT
Correct dohnut. You want to see the rows at kids games as the parents don't understand the rules!
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