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Post by buffalobill on Mar 9, 2024 16:41:37 GMT
Things have been stacked against us with our key injuries, we’ve done well to be in with a chance of the playoffs. If it’s a step too far, which it appears to be, then let’s reset for next season.
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Post by mrb on Mar 9, 2024 17:14:43 GMT
We get a player sent off,we lose! Opposition gets player sent off,we lose or draw..Dream of the play off were good..Roll on next season 👍🏾
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Post by alfresco on Mar 9, 2024 18:03:56 GMT
The boss made a couple of mistakes today, in my opinion
First, he shouldnt have taken O' Neil off for Hunt, as O Neil was looking a threat, and forde wasnt, plus Shaq already had a yellow
Second, to play a 5-4-0, invited pressure......as soon as you clear it, the balls back etc etc. We should have maintained an attacking mentality, we might have scored
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Post by mujtahido on Mar 9, 2024 18:06:39 GMT
Well we're still in with a very outside chance of making the top six but must absolutely ein against Port Vale on Tuesday night and then beat Stevenage on Saturday.Anything else and it's over for this season
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Post by oreo on Mar 9, 2024 18:58:04 GMT
We have a depleted squad. With what players we do have available, we're playing them often for 80-90 minutes stints for Tuesday and Saturday games over the past month. They must be tired. We go down to 10 men for half the game on a large pitch. It was always going to be an ask.
The players work so hard. I'm pleased to have them as our players.
I suspect my next bit is going to be repeated during the remainder of the season but.. ..not wanting to say the season's over but it is. I don't believe we'll make the playoffs as the teams above are not going to drop that many points, not all of them, and we'll face hurdles with our limited squad. It doesn't bother me as I'm very much looking to next season. With our absent players back (Graham, Theo, Agyei, Happe) and Sanders and Galbraith fit from the start, a more experienced sweeney, and an additional striker (McKirdy or equivalent caliber), Brynn back, and having signed Miz and Forde - I think we'll be a real force. Yes, I know that's a big wish list.
Anyway, nothing really to say in this post other than our fans should be happy with our current standing. We're really in a good position in all aspects.
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Post by mayland0s on Mar 9, 2024 19:08:29 GMT
We have a depleted squad. With what players we do have available, we're playing them often for 80-90 minutes stints for Tuesday and Saturday games over the past month. They must be tired. We go down to 10 men for half the game on a large pitch. It was always going to be an ask. The players work so hard. I'm pleased to have them as our players. I suspect my next bit is going to be repeated during the remainder of the season but.. ..not wanting to say the season's over but it is. I don't believe we'll make the playoffs as the teams above are not going to drop that many points, not all of them, and we'll face hurdles with our limited squad. It doesn't bother me as I'm very much looking to next season. With our absent players back (Graham, Theo, Agyei, Happe) and Sanders and Galbraith fit from the start, a more experienced sweeney, and an additional striker (McKirdy or equivalent caliber), Brynn back, and having signed Miz and Forde - I think we'll be a real force. Yes, I know that's a big wish list. Anyway, nothing really to say in this post other than our fans should be happy with our current standing. We're really in a good position in all aspects. Good post . Let’s start trying to give some of our youngsters a few minutes and try and evaluate them in men’s football .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 20:22:07 GMT
Well we're still in with a very outside chance of making the top six but must absolutely ein against Port Vale on Tuesday night and then beat Stevenage on Saturday.Anything else and it's over for this season I say give the kids a chance against Vale then play the strongest side we can against Stevenage. We'll need all the next six points to maintain a chance of the playoffs, but we've no hope against Stevenage if everyone's as knackered as they looked today.
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Post by mrb on Mar 9, 2024 20:25:55 GMT
Well we're still in with a very outside chance of making the top six but must absolutely ein against Port Vale on Tuesday night and then beat Stevenage on Saturday.Anything else and it's over for this season I say give the kids a chance against Vale then play the strongest side we can against Stevenage. We'll need all the next six points to maintain a chance of the playoffs, but we've no hope against Stevenage if everyone's as knackered as they looked today. Our own kids or our kids on loan? Whichever way,if we did that we’d get walloped.Wont help their confidence
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Post by Thor on Mar 9, 2024 22:21:36 GMT
We have a depleted squad. With what players we do have available, we're playing them often for 80-90 minutes stints for Tuesday and Saturday games over the past month. They must be tired. We go down to 10 men for half the game on a large pitch. It was always going to be an ask. The players work so hard. I'm pleased to have them as our players. I suspect my next bit is going to be repeated during the remainder of the season but.. ..not wanting to say the season's over but it is. I don't believe we'll make the playoffs as the teams above are not going to drop that many points, not all of them, and we'll face hurdles with our limited squad. It doesn't bother me as I'm very much looking to next season. With our absent players back (Graham, Theo, Agyei, Happe) and Sanders and Galbraith fit from the start, a more experienced sweeney, and an additional striker (McKirdy or equivalent caliber), Brynn back, and having signed Miz and Forde - I think we'll be a real force. Yes, I know that's a big wish list. Anyway, nothing really to say in this post other than our fans should be happy with our current standing. We're really in a good position in all aspects. good comments Oreo. The key is going to revolve around a position we’ve struggled with and that’s a proper centre forward. That is key to getting out of this league. I just hope that RW is truly backed in the summer by the board.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 9, 2024 22:30:38 GMT
Well we're still in with a very outside chance of making the top six but must absolutely ein against Port Vale on Tuesday night and then beat Stevenage on Saturday.Anything else and it's over for this season I say give the kids a chance against Vale then play the strongest side we can against Stevenage. We'll need all the next six points to maintain a chance of the playoffs, but we've no hope against Stevenage if everyone's as knackered as they looked today. Stevenage have 8 players in the top 200 with most minutes played. We have 7. So why should our players be more tired? Based on that Stevenage should be claiming be more tired. People need to look at the stats, our boys ain’t doing any more than other teams. If they are tired then so is everyone else.
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Post by watfordo on Mar 9, 2024 22:36:03 GMT
I say give the kids a chance against Vale then play the strongest side we can against Stevenage. We'll need all the next six points to maintain a chance of the playoffs, but we've no hope against Stevenage if everyone's as knackered as they looked today. Stevenage have 8 players in the top 200 with most minutes played. We have 7. So why should our players be more tired? Based on that Stevenage should be claiming be more tired. People need to look at the stats, our boys ain’t doing any more than other teams. If they are tired then so is everyone else. Not how it works. Different players have different fitness levels depending on where they play, age, previous injuries, existing conditions etc. Youre simplifying this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 23:13:45 GMT
Stevenage have 8 players in the top 200 with most minutes played. We have 7. So why should our players be more tired? Based on that Stevenage should be claiming be more tired. People need to look at the stats, our boys ain’t doing any more than other teams. If they are tired then so is everyone else. That's not what I said though, is it? It's not about whether we're more or less tired than them. They play a style that we struggle against. If we're not close to 100% then we don't stand a chance, and even then I wouldn't bet on us. We've been undone by hoofball teams that are far worse than they are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 23:16:37 GMT
I say give the kids a chance against Vale then play the strongest side we can against Stevenage. We'll need all the next six points to maintain a chance of the playoffs, but we've no hope against Stevenage if everyone's as knackered as they looked today. Our own kids or our kids on loan? Whichever way,if we did that we’d get walloped.Wont help their confidence So be it. We've got players who need gametime and players who need a rest. Fact is we need to win the next two games or our season's over (if it isn't already). And I know which of the two teams I'd rather field a few kids against.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 9, 2024 23:17:50 GMT
Stevenage have 8 players in the top 200 with most minutes played. We have 7. So why should our players be more tired? Based on that Stevenage should be claiming be more tired. People need to look at the stats, our boys ain’t doing any more than other teams. If they are tired then so is everyone else. Not how it works. Different players have different fitness levels depending on where they play, age, previous injuries, existing conditions etc. Youre simplifying this. Sure. But in the absence of detailed data analysis Stevenage could be in a worse position. We don’t know. What I do know, having taken the trouble to look at minutes played we are not exceptional. Idris is up there with the busiest, our squad is par for the course. We are not unique when it comes to age mix, injuries, position and so on. And starts/minutes, nothing exceptional. The illusory effect. I use Southend as an example. Transfer embargo, 13 players for much of the season yet add back their 10 point deduction and they would be in the playoffs. Now there is a small squad who could genuinely use the fatigue argument. Don’t like the shrimpers but they just get on with it. We need to do the same and cut out the excuses.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 9, 2024 23:25:05 GMT
Stevenage have 8 players in the top 200 with most minutes played. We have 7. So why should our players be more tired? Based on that Stevenage should be claiming be more tired. People need to look at the stats, our boys ain’t doing any more than other teams. If they are tired then so is everyone else. That's not what I said though, is it? It's not about whether we're more or less tired than them. They play a style that we struggle against. If we're not close to 100% then we don't stand a chance, and even then I wouldn't bet on us. We've been undone by hoofball teams that are far worse than they are. I saw the knackered comment and responded. But I agree we do struggle against teams like Stevenage who employ a robust physical style of play. Less so of late but they concede so much possession yet appear very effective in possession. We are the opposite. But we choose our players and style, they theirs. So we can’t really complain if we struggle against them. Though I’m hoping we beat them next week. We are due a win. Nice away day trip. I fancy 3 points there.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 9, 2024 23:33:35 GMT
Our own kids or our kids on loan? Whichever way,if we did that we’d get walloped.Wont help their confidence So be it. We've got players who need gametime and players who need a rest. Fact is we need to win the next two games or our season's over (if it isn't already). And I know which of the two teams I'd rather field a few kids against. If the kids are loan players then I don’t see the benefit of playing them unless we have a chance of keeping them next season (and want to). Forde for example. Injuries may force things, But maybe a case for some of our own to be on the bench and get game time. Even if our season is over, which it pretty much is, I’d like some momentum going into next season and finishing on a run of poor results won’t do anyone any good. Wont help the kids develop either. So sensible team selection with an eye on next season.
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Post by watfordo on Mar 10, 2024 6:01:52 GMT
Not how it works. Different players have different fitness levels depending on where they play, age, previous injuries, existing conditions etc. Youre simplifying this. Sure. But in the absence of detailed data analysis Stevenage could be in a worse position. We don’t know. What I do know, having taken the trouble to look at minutes played we are not exceptional. Idris is up there with the busiest, our squad is par for the course. We are not unique when it comes to age mix, injuries, position and so on. And starts/minutes, nothing exceptional. The illusory effect. I use Southend as an example. Transfer embargo, 13 players for much of the season yet add back their 10 point deduction and they would be in the playoffs. Now there is a small squad who could genuinely use the fatigue argument. Don’t like the shrimpers but they just get on with it. We need to do the same and cut out the excuses. So you made a point, said to stop whinging about minutes played, and then agreed you had no detailed data to back up your claim and then you revert back to saying we need to cut out the excuses about minutes played and get on with it!
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Post by Thor on Mar 10, 2024 7:09:02 GMT
Dohnut are you sure you don’t support Southend as you use them as an example quite often.
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Post by Thor on Mar 10, 2024 7:22:47 GMT
I personally do not subscribe to this can’t play two games a week without being tired. Players love two games a week as it keeps them focussed and doing what they love best actually playing a game rather than training. However, the game has moved on massively over the past ten years and sports science plays a big part of that. Blood tests, fat tests, muscle tests (reaction rate to a pinch), Red zones and so on. The players are important and earlier this season you heard RW say that Ruel was in a red zone, RW was advised not to play him, he played due to injuries etc. and he picked up a muscle injury. Medical science said he was in a danger zone, RW took responsibility and he got injured.
The issue is science has a part to play today, you may not feel tired however, the science points to the fact your muscles for example are and at that point you risk soft tissue damage. The game is the fastest it’s ever been and medical teams are so important to the team. The player wants to play of that there is no doubt, maybe they need protecting from themselves? Maybe we’ve over trained? Maybe the squad is too thin to rotate without compromise? It’s finding the right balance and that’s an art form which is constantly being worked on I’d have thought.
Finally looking at the team the evidence is there before our eyes, Shaq is knackered, the zip has diminished to a certain extent, Theo one game too many, Dan A probably needed a rest and we pushed him and now he’s out. So tiredness is real as we’ve seen and are seeing, RW knows what he’s doing and I’m grateful for that, it’s tough when your heads on the block if you get it wrong more often than not. Still I’d rather be where we are than say Carlisle who came up with us.
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Post by Thor on Mar 10, 2024 7:23:34 GMT
Money is obviously an issue, but that’s why Premier league clubs have two players for every position and sometimes more.
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