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Post by redshank on Mar 11, 2024 17:27:35 GMT
I wonder how many EFL supporters pay for a Sky or/and TNT subscription.
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Post by mayland0s on Mar 11, 2024 17:46:37 GMT
I wonder how many EFL supporters pay for a Sky or/and TNT subscription. What was the deal that was proposed ? |
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Post by blip the thrOttle on Mar 11, 2024 18:14:30 GMT
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Post by blip the thrOttle on Mar 11, 2024 18:26:27 GMT
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Post by blip the thrOttle on Mar 11, 2024 18:36:16 GMT
I wonder how many EFL supporters pay for a Sky or/and TNT subscription. What was the deal that was proposed ? Can't find exact details but the Premier League are going to have to hand over a bigger slice of the Sky Sports tv money pie. If they can't come to an agreement it will be done by an independent regulator. About time there was a fairer distribution, the self entitlement of the Premier League in general and specifically Man City knows no bounds. |
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Post by mayland0s on Mar 11, 2024 19:08:39 GMT
What was the deal that was proposed ? Can't find exact details but the Premier League are going to have to hand over a bigger slice of the Sky Sports tv money pie. If they can't come to an agreement it will be done by an independent regulator. About time there was a fairer distribution, the self entitlement of the Premier League in general and specifically Man City knows no bounds. Thanks blip and I couldn’t agree more . |
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Post by Thor on Mar 11, 2024 21:32:50 GMT
It said £998m but did not mention any lengh of period.
I think the EFL had made an error showing over 1k games a season, who wants to watch that many games? Also won't it dilute the product being shown so much?
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Post by Fisch on Mar 11, 2024 23:17:46 GMT
If there is a regulator with the power to force the EPL to hand over more than they wish, will they not merely abandon the league en-masse and start a new one (with Sky) where they keep it all?
They could invite the Milans, the Madrids, PSG, Bayern, Barca, Celtic...... They could call it "Super League" or some-such.
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Post by redshank on Mar 12, 2024 9:57:08 GMT
I heard it was £500,000,000 for the new EFL deal and has to be passed by 14 members of the PL.They want complete control and did not vote on the deal.That is why I asked how much EFL supporters pay toward the billions the PL get.I do believe a lot comes from streaming services abroad.
Seems the PL want complete control of all financial goings on.I saw it explained on Sky,but it was so quick and some of it I did not hear.Th Government have said certain things and I don't think that suits the PL.
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Post by Fisch on Mar 12, 2024 10:59:21 GMT
What redshank said is how l understand things. The EPL have no intention of raising the payments to the EFL clubs and want to rid themselves of 2 things...
1. The current financial sustainability rules
2. The government regulator.
Their view is the EPL is their business, the EFL and HMG has no business interfering with it outside the normal laws for any other business.
I believe they will get what they want, if they don't, perhaps the EFL will get nothing.
A war is coming.
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Post by redintheface on Mar 12, 2024 11:02:22 GMT
What redshank said is how l understand things. The EPL have no intention of raising the payments to the EFL clubs and want to rid themselves of 2 things... 1. The current financial sustainability rules 2. The government regulator. Their view is the EPL is their business, the EFL and HMG has no business interfering with it outside the normal laws for any other business. I believe they will get what they want, if they don't, perhaps the EFL will get nothing. A war is coming. A war in which the EFL will be going in armed with muskets compared to the PL nuclear weaponry!😕 |
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Post by redshank on Mar 12, 2024 11:42:59 GMT
It will make a big difference for almost all of the EFL.I believe now we are in recipient of part of the £350 million pie,another £150 million on top of that in the new deal would help out and keep many clubs somewhere near solvency.If we get nothing I will close my Sports subscription.I have always loathed the idea of part financing PL clubs with obscene amounts.It is a worldwide viewership for sure which keeps the money rolling in.
The government are on the side of the EFL in their battle with the PL.
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Post by Fisch on Mar 12, 2024 12:50:04 GMT
A war in which the EFL will be going in armed with muskets compared to the PL nuclear weaponry!😕 and the EPL have Karen Brady. Anyone fancy a legal/financial battle with her? |
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Post by redshank on Mar 12, 2024 13:58:23 GMT
The PLs lawyers are much more clever that the EFL or the government can supply.Credit for the government though for showing to help the EFL.
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Post by estaing on Mar 12, 2024 14:03:04 GMT
About 10 years ago or maybe more Man. United were top of the premier league. As you will all remember Man United were on Sky almost once a week. I know about that time their revenue from Sky was £56 MILLION for one season. On one occasion Orient were on Sky tv and I asked Matt Porter how much Orient received in payment from Sky and it was £10k for the season. Of course Man U. games were more attractive but the difference in the income from TV rights is staggering.
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Post by redshank on Mar 12, 2024 14:10:04 GMT
In the Championship Sky seem to be showing WBA a lot.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 12, 2024 15:09:04 GMT
Sky make their money showing games across Europe. Go into a bar anywhere and a game will be on. Pubs, clubs pay a licence to show games in order to entice people in. Wigan vs Leyton Orient won’t bring in the crowds, little interest on a wider scale but Man vs Liverpool will be. So I would question from a Skys perspective just how much the EFL add to the marketability of their product. My guess is directly very little. It’s drinks at the bar that makes businesses pay their licence fee and it’s watch the top clubs that does it. Same to a degree the home viewers, the big clubs attract the viewers.
Indirectly of course it’s the lower clubs across Europe that find and develop the players that allow the top teams to be what they are and that must be recognised by Sky. So a sharing of the money is in order. And if Sky want the bigger clubs to remain attractive then they need to support the feeder clubs further down the chain. And not by paying an insulting amount either.
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Post by redintheface on Mar 12, 2024 15:57:46 GMT
The “ danger” to Sky presents itself in the form of further fragmentation of the PL “ product” across an increasing range of broadcasters. The model is there from the US coverage of the NFL - which is shared between CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, Paramount, Fox, Amazon Prime and the NFL network.
The rights are so expensive no one ( or two) companies can afford them on their own. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is where the PL go in their quest for ever greater revenues and broadcasters find the escalating costs more difficult to justify.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 12, 2024 17:19:32 GMT
The “ danger” to Sky presents itself in the form of further fragmentation of the PL “ product” across an increasing range of broadcasters. The model is there from the US coverage of the NFL - which is shared between CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, Paramount, Fox, Amazon Prime and the NFL network. The rights are so expensive no one ( or two) companies can afford them on their own. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is where the PL go in their quest for ever greater revenues and broadcasters find the escalating costs more difficult to justify. Amazon prime already show some premier league games. Though not many. Yet! I personally would not buy Sky in order to watch PL games. Skills are exceptional but the games can often be boring and predictable. EFL is so much better for pure enjoyment. But I guess I’m biased. Greater skills doesn’t always equate to greater excitement. All I really care about is Orient getting a bigger slice of the money cake. And the odd TV exposure. |
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Post by blip the thrOttle on Mar 12, 2024 19:30:34 GMT
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