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Post by dohnut on Sept 16, 2024 12:28:24 GMT
Just been reading that some UK tourists will boycott Europe for holidays because of the new travel regulations. Bloody good job, be much nicer for those of us who enjoy a trip abroad to our European neighbours. They might like to know we are also imposing a visa system and its dearer than the EU one. Travel regulations apply throughout the world. No big deal. Countries want to control their borders and righty so. It’s an increasing trend. I dare say we have people in the U.K. that they don’t want visiting, I can understand that. Some may see this as anti-UK. It’s not, we are just being included within the current schemes applied elsewhere. The way of the world these days. It really is not a big deal and the cost, compared with overseas travel in general is small. They want to control their borders, not reduce lucrative tourist income. They ain’t stupid.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 16, 2024 13:00:57 GMT
To see the images of thousands of EU flags flying at the proms thing fills us with hope. The British people have spoken. End the BREXIT nightmare and REJOIN EU NOW They most certainly have. In 2016, as I recall. Responding to kbola. I too watched the proms. Firstly there were some, but not thousands, of EU flags. But remember the proms are attended by people of many countries, not just the Brits, so could just as easily have been waved by Europeans who have lost their own national identity. Sadly some have. But interestingly I also saw a decent number of German flags, you will have too. So applying your logic, we have some Brits who want to join the EU and others who want to join Germany! Not too sure that is right. Your logic is illogical. Think about it. Sorry to say but yours are ill-thought-out comments. Propaganda at its finest.
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Post by kbola on Sept 16, 2024 13:21:20 GMT
Im pretty sure the young will take us back in to the EU. The main body of Brexiteers always seemed to be oldies and racists. Absolutely correct watfordo. The young like me are far more open minded and sophisticated than the old men shouting at the clouds who voted for BREXIT and represent the usual angry little clan on this forum
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Post by billk53 on Sept 16, 2024 13:58:29 GMT
I never make generalisations....
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Post by dohnut on Sept 16, 2024 18:17:50 GMT
Im pretty sure the young will take us back in to the EU. The main body of Brexiteers always seemed to be oldies and racists. Absolutely correct watfordo. The young like me are far more open minded and sophisticated than the old men shouting at the clouds who voted for BREXIT and represent the usual angry little clan on this forum Sorry but I just can’t stop laughing at that statement, especially being more open minded when making such a closed mind comment. The irony is breathtaking. best laugh in a while. Who needs the comedy club. 😂😂😂
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Post by sammiiii on Sept 17, 2024 16:52:55 GMT
Love coming to Orient threads and having my mood ruined because there's a political argument going on.
No escape I guess 🙂
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Post by Fisch on Sept 17, 2024 18:12:50 GMT
Love coming to Orient threads and having my mood ruined because there's a political argument going on. No escape I guess 🙂 Sadly no. I like a debate but people espousing the merits and demerits from an entrenched and partisan position is tedium personified.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 17, 2024 20:11:01 GMT
Love coming to Orient threads and having my mood ruined because there's a political argument going on. No escape I guess 🙂 Sadly no. I like a debate but people espousing the merits and demerits from an entrenched and partisan position is tedium personified. Entrenched partisan is typical of many football posts too
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Post by redshank on Sept 18, 2024 10:35:51 GMT
For those who have never lived under a Labour Government,this is what many told would happen.This for those people is the great awakening.Awful already isn't it and fear the October budget,few will be spared.
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Post by kbola on Sept 18, 2024 11:43:02 GMT
For those who have never lived under a Labour Government,this is what many told would happen.This for those people is the great awakening.Awful already isn't it and fear the October budget,few will be spared. What do you mean? I am very happy with the government. If only Sir Kier would undo the BREXIT NIGHTMARE, it would be a perfect government ❤️
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 18, 2024 11:45:29 GMT
They most certainly have. In 2016, as I recall. Responding to kbola. I too watched the proms. Firstly there were some, but not thousands, of EU flags. But remember the proms are attended by people of many countries, not just the Brits, so could just as easily have been waved by Europeans who have lost their own national identity. Sadly some have. But interestingly I also saw a decent number of German flags, you will have too. So applying your logic, we have some Brits who want to join the EU and others who want to join Germany! Not too sure that is right. Your logic is illogical. Think about it. Sorry to say but yours are ill-thought-out comments. Propaganda at its finest. Excellent commonsense comment dohnut and I notice no reply yet from ''kbola'' ?
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Post by redshank on Sept 18, 2024 12:20:19 GMT
kbola likes his own comments,enough said.
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Post by Thor on Sept 18, 2024 12:48:36 GMT
Two Tier Kier has now spoken to UEFA and he believes he can negotiate a way through which will not penalise the FA or England. We shall see.
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Post by kbola on Sept 18, 2024 13:44:14 GMT
That ‘Kid Starver’ tag is about the most imbecilic, social media driven crap Ive heard in a long while. Exactly right watfordo and sadly sums up the mentality that a few are determined to bring to these discussions. Sad.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 18, 2024 14:43:30 GMT
kbola likes his own comments,enough said. Sadly it remains one-line soundbites without much substance. No wonder he loves Starmer who thus far has been a disaster. 30 point drop in ratings already. I fear the budget. Austerity returns.
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Post by Thor on Sept 18, 2024 14:50:34 GMT
That ‘Kid Starver’ tag is about the most imbecilic, social media driven crap Ive heard in a long while. Exactly right watfordo and sadly sums up the mentality that a few are determined to bring to these discussions. Sad. shall we call him pensioner killer then?
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Post by dohnut on Sept 18, 2024 15:48:34 GMT
Exactly right watfordo and sadly sums up the mentality that a few are determined to bring to these discussions. Sad. shall we call him pensioner killer then? Using their own historical analysis as I understand it, that description will only be apt if we have a winter. But we get one every year so it’s reasonable. I can think of one or two more. Robber-lover, thief-lover, maybe just criminal-lover, covers it well. Thinking about recent events a whole host of adjectives are apt. Wait till the budget and I’m sure a few more will arise. What about belt-the-aged to replace help-the-aged. cock-up Kier. The opportunities are endless. Politicians stoop to lows but in such a short time he has presided over some disgusting actions. But at least his wife gets new, smart, clothes for free.
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Post by Thor on Sept 18, 2024 19:29:20 GMT
Don't forget he was the person who said we don't have enough evidence to prosecute Saville! Over 500 victims. He must have been bad at his job at the DPP. We know he's useless as PM.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 20, 2024 11:33:11 GMT
On a more interesting note. Starmer’s popularity has dropped below 30% in just 70 days. The worst ever performance. Other notable falls from grace hitting this low are:
Tony Blair at 1014 days Boris Johnson 762 days Margaret Thatcher 676 days
So 70 is some going for a sitting election winning PM
His tenure thus far has been catastrophic. Pensions, Prisons. Freebies, advisor wages, running down the good name of the country, wage settlements to his union paymasters. His inability to answer questions other than the £20b already laid bare during a TV interview.
I shudder to think what is in store in the next budget.
What a shambles.
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Post by zimo on Sept 20, 2024 12:18:23 GMT
I think Free Gear Kier’s popularity rating still has some way to drop.
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