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Post by buffalobill on Sept 26, 2024 13:51:58 GMT
Brentford got around 6500 for many games 2013/14, but now get an extra 10k on top of that.
Bet they never thought there was room for such growth.
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Post by redshank on Sept 26, 2024 14:28:12 GMT
Some clubs seem to sell out no matter how bad they are doing ,Wet Sham , Man U , Spurs . Some clubs struggle like Orient ,we bend with the wind as far as attendances go so it would take a very brave ,rich investor to put money into our club , especially where it is situated. Not being a racist but it does seem to me that you do not see many foreign faces in the crowd at Orient and on match days outside and around the area life goes on as if there isn’t even a game at Brizzy Rd . Just very little interest ! All fair comment mayland0s but that doesn’t detract from the basic premise that form/ results have a significant bearing on attendances.👍 Stayaways if they read some of the comments on this forum will stay away more. |
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Post by kbola on Sept 26, 2024 15:47:11 GMT
All fair comment mayland0s but that doesn’t detract from the basic premise that form/ results have a significant bearing on attendances.👍 Stayaways if they read some of the comments on this forum will stay away more. The bedwetters won't deter the True Faithfull 💦💦🙏🙏 |
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Post by redintheface on Sept 26, 2024 15:52:19 GMT
All fair comment mayland0s but that doesn’t detract from the basic premise that form/ results have a significant bearing on attendances.👍 Stayaways if they read some of the comments on this forum will stay away more. Nothing to do with the comments on this forum in my case - simply no longer prepared to endure 3 plus hours on weekday public transport ( longer in the event of bus replacement services) and end up paying in excess of £75.00 and getting home at gone 11.30 pm to watch something I can watch at home on Sky Sports in comfort. No contest I’m afraid as far as Tuesday night games are concerned.😟 |
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Post by debdeno on Sept 26, 2024 16:46:55 GMT
Hi All
Just my uptake on this topic.
Firstly I arrange my social and work schedules around the fixtures release date.
This originally was a Saturday fixture,and was called off due to the International break and rearranged.
I personally hate missing games as a Season Card Holder, but had another date penciled in before this date was arranged which could not be changed, so bearing this in mind this may be another factor why the attendance was low. This I'm afraid is going to be the norm with the Sky deal in place.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 26, 2024 17:14:45 GMT
Stayaways if they read some of the comments on this forum will stay away more. Nothing to do with the comments on this forum in my case - simply no longer prepared to endure 3 plus hours on weekday public transport ( longer in the event of bus replacement services) and end up paying in excess of £75.00 and getting home at gone 11.30 pm to watch something I can watch at home on Sky Sports in comfort. No contest I’m afraid as far as Tuesday night games are concerned.😟 Pretty much same for me. Even with my season card I rarely went to evening games. Getting back to Hampshire not easy late at night and if I’m being honest not something I was that keen to do. Seen my share of drunks etc. As for Saturdays. Had my fill of strikes, driver shortages, maintenance, breakdowns, leaves on the line, even a suicide and train crash at Salisbury. Last year was a joke. This season my attendance will suffer, rearranged times just don’t help. But with NowTV etc I still get to watch. Nothing beats live football but I’ll settle for second best. |
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Post by redintheface on Sept 26, 2024 17:30:40 GMT
Nothing to do with the comments on this forum in my case - simply no longer prepared to endure 3 plus hours on weekday public transport ( longer in the event of bus replacement services) and end up paying in excess of £75.00 and getting home at gone 11.30 pm to watch something I can watch at home on Sky Sports in comfort. No contest I’m afraid as far as Tuesday night games are concerned.😟 Pretty much same for me. Even with my season card I rarely went to evening games. Getting back to Hampshire not easy late at night and if I’m being honest not something I was that keen to do. Seen my share of drunks etc. As for Saturdays. Had my fill of strikes, driver shortages, maintenance, breakdowns, leaves on the line, even a suicide and train crash at Salisbury. Last year was a joke. This season my attendance will suffer, rearranged times just don’t help. But with NowTV etc I still get to watch. Nothing beats live football but I’ll settle for second best. Like yourself doh, I’ll make the effort for Saturday games that either appeal to me or are not shown on TV but midweeks are not on the agenda. Shame really because some of my best memories of the O’s were “ under the lights” but times change.👍 |
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Post by arrgee on Sept 26, 2024 20:47:51 GMT
Yet another poor attendance at Brizzy on Tuesday ,so many empty seats and lack of atmosphere and that's not the first time . Surely that must be an end to all the speculation about a newer ,bigger stadium . Seems like there is absolutely no appetite from the local population to support Orient . I am a local and I watched it on TV. I don't think many people will be heading to Brisbane Road for midweek fixtures nor those early on Saturday. The cost is a big factor. Last season I went to Orient v Lincoln (restaged) as it was £10. I even had a drink or two. I went to Os V Arsenal U21 because it was £10 (£5 under 25s) so that cost £25, and three of us went to Brentford for £30. I paid £64 for 2 tickets for Os V Birmingham. Will probably do likewise for Os V Charlton, though it was just £25 each at The Valley. I suspect future midweeks will have lower attendances as not only are Os on TV, but there will be Champions League and Premier League games on TV on same night. Football is getting more and more expensive. I can afford a dozen games a season but when it it is on TV, I will save my £30 for another game. |
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Post by buffalobill on Sept 27, 2024 6:57:57 GMT
I always enjoyed Tuesday night fixtures, but travel costs as I now live further from BR is off putting, as is getting home at 11.30 +
I drive to my local station and if I park there and get the train I’ve spent £42 before I even get to the ground.
On a Saturday I can make more of a day of it and my season card is great value. Tuesday nights just too much of a rush.
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Post by posho on Sept 27, 2024 7:31:50 GMT
As I put previously where are the locals, the walk across the road people. A bigger stadium won't make a difference. The club can't rely on the old stalwarts coming to the games from miles away. I used to get home at 1.30 in the morning and then up for work at 6.30.Retired now but not prepared to do it anymore
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Post by Fisch on Sept 27, 2024 7:42:37 GMT
It seems to me this thread has some valuable data for Mark Devlin to use in his attempts to grow attendances - and for all to understand the general demographic of a message board like this one.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 27, 2024 8:49:40 GMT
As I put previously where are the locals, the walk across the road people. A bigger stadium won't make a difference. The club can't rely on the old stalwarts coming to the games from miles away. I used to get home at 1.30 in the morning and then up for work at 6.30.Retired now but not prepared to do it anymore My guess that these days, travel itself is less of an issue but travel convenience is. I very much doubt there are many teams who totally rely on those within walking distance. Now most everyone uses transport and in London being close to good transport links is vital. Plenty of people at Leyton Tube after a game. Even when I lived in Clapton I used my bike, Ilford and Tottenham my car, now in Hampshire my car and then train. Lots of years and I can count on two hands the numbers of times I walked. Some will walk of course but that’s not the issue these days. Football is less about the game, although that is the glue that holds it together, and more about the matchday experience. Meeting up with mates, a beer in the supporters club bar and so on. For many, the distance isn’t the thing. It is hardly surprising that many teams focus on improving facilities or building new grounds with car parks, People in my opinion want more than just the game. Provide a good match day experience and the travel becomes little more than a bearable irritation. Assuming a club doesn’t want to stand still. Create success without facilities to support it, lifelong struggle. If you want sustainable success, create the facilities to support it. Always a risk for sure. Why many stadiums these days have multi-functional stadiums. Even my local cricket club went down that route, and they definitely don’t rely on those living within walking distance of the Bowl. Closest houses miles away. New ground, Hllton Hotel attached to the ground, restaurants, golf course next to the ground, training facilities, huge car park. For bigger games a park and ride system. Great place to watch sport, lucky to get tickets for the bigger games. Ballot system. Right facilities, decent transport backup, people will come. |
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Post by mrb on Sept 27, 2024 8:55:06 GMT
I remember one Friday night many years ago,we played Halifax at home and it was absolutely freezing..It was such a crap game that I forgot we won 1-0,after scoring really early..The crowd? 1144(or around that figure)..lowest crowd for a league game at Brissy thst I’ve attended..I’m still enjoying my commuting to home games..But the urge to stay at home and watch on Sky is becoming stronger!!!
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Post by posho on Sept 27, 2024 9:10:08 GMT
Perhaps because no one else supports the O's in my family affects my opinion. Being on your own for 10 hours game day doesn't help. I don't meet up with mates . My youngest son has been to a couple of games with me over the years just for a day out
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Post by dohnut on Sept 27, 2024 10:03:33 GMT
Perhaps because no one else supports the O's in my family affects my opinion. Being on your own for 10 hours game day doesn't help. I don't meet up with mates . My youngest son has been to a couple of games with me over the years just for a day out Sadly me too most of the time. Mrs doh had a season ticket last year but in recent times I had a solitary match day. But going was a habit and struggled to miss a Saturday 3pm game. SC bar a good experience, stadium less so. Lacks atmosphere most of the time and the food/drink facilities inside not up to much. If it wasn’t a habit I would have stopped years ago and missed our recent and very rare successful seasons. Not been this season. Age takes its toll, the enthusiasm for a long journey just not there anymore. |
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Post by stamfordo on Sept 27, 2024 10:38:51 GMT
I remember one Friday night many years ago,we played Halifax at home and it was absolutely freezing..It was such a crap game that I forgot we won 1-0,after scoring really early..The crowd? 1144(or around that figure)..lowest crowd for a league game at Brissy thst I’ve attended..I’m still enjoying my commuting to home games..But the urge to stay at home and watch on Sky is becoming stronger!!! Was it not against preston and bloke on crutches came on pitch |
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Post by redshank on Sept 27, 2024 10:51:40 GMT
Stayaways if they read some of the comments on this forum will stay away more. Nothing to do with the comments on this forum in my case - simply no longer prepared to endure 3 plus hours on weekday public transport ( longer in the event of bus replacement services) and end up paying in excess of £75.00 and getting home at gone 11.30 pm to watch something I can watch at home on Sky Sports in comfort. No contest I’m afraid as far as Tuesday night games are concerned.😟 Fair comment as my journey and cost is very simple.Some near me attend every match and travel as far with the same hours of getting home.Sky sports does not get anywhere near the feeling of matchday and attending where you watch all of the action and not a camera lens view.In the case of sky + the creaking picture quality and sound issues make it unwatchable. A match or player review taken from a TV perspective is not ever likely to be the same review if you see the actual match.No perspective on television. |
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Post by mujtahido on Sept 27, 2024 10:52:40 GMT
Agree with a lot that's been said.I very rarely attend midweek games as it means getting home late and i don't live in a great part of London.I would imagine the majority of our Saturday games will be sell outs or very close to selling out now that summer holidays are done.Getting the local interest is difficult although I've been very pleased over the last few seasons to see so many youngsters and women in the stands.Rw has assembled a very young and exciting team and i brought a friend to the Birmingham game who supports Man utd and he can't wait to come again
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Post by posho on Sept 27, 2024 10:56:36 GMT
Dohnut-agree, age for me as well, Not the same on your own. Sounds like we are a couple of old gits😁
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Post by redshank on Sept 27, 2024 11:00:14 GMT
Perhaps because no one else supports the O's in my family affects my opinion. Being on your own for 10 hours game day doesn't help. I don't meet up with mates . My youngest son has been to a couple of games with me over the years just for a day out I kinda like my own company although my matchday is four hours or a little more.Admire those like yourself who put so much effort into your visits to Brisbane Road,and those that spend all that time on the away games deserve even more credit. Comments such as yours should be made available to the players to see the efforts of those that pay some part of their wages and working at something they love doing. Despite it all it is great being an Orient fan,and oh the utter delight of an attended goal only bettered by the final whistle when we win. |
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