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Post by mrb on Oct 1, 2024 21:03:27 GMT
We're not up to it generally. Perkins and Donley have no fire. Kelman works his nuts off but will never get more than a handful of goals in a season. Warrington and Brown are OK, nothing more. O'Neill has lost whatever he had. It's going to be a hard season. I don't blame anyone, we just can't really afford to be in EFL1. I’m glad you said that about O’Neil,gone backwards! Donely was meant to be a wonder kid wasn’t he?? But funny when I write Donely it gets auto corrected to Donkey..😁 |
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Post by redintheface on Oct 1, 2024 21:04:16 GMT
We're not up to it generally. Perkins and Donley have no fire. Kelman works his nuts off but will never get more than a handful of goals in a season. Warrington and Brown are OK, nothing more. O'Neill has lost whatever he had. It's going to be a hard season. I don't blame anyone, we just can't really afford to be in EFL1. Perkins and Donley seem to bear the brunt of the criticism but I’ve got to say Graham was shocking as well. For someone who’s supposed to be a great crosser of the ball his ( rare) efforts tonight were woeful. |
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Post by eca on Oct 1, 2024 21:06:42 GMT
Lofc screwed up big time when we missed the easy chances we had
There is nothing wrong with any of the players generally but the chances we missed were below the standard of League 1.
I get exasperated when any full-time professional player cannot keep a basic shot down and on target.
I am 72 not that mobile but I could still do that it's like watching Sunday league players over a park re their shooting.
That was a self-induced loss - we should of won that.
Edit - Brown did a good shot to the low post area from outside the area
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Post by downundero on Oct 1, 2024 21:07:52 GMT
We're not up to it generally. Perkins and Donley have no fire. Kelman works his nuts off but will never get more than a handful of goals in a season. Warrington and Brown are OK, nothing more. O'Neill has lost whatever he had. It's going to be a hard season. I don't blame anyone, we just can't really afford to be in EFL1. Perkins and Donley seem to bear the brunt of the criticism but I’ve got to say Graham was shocking as well. For someone who’s supposed to be a great crosser of the ball his ( rare) efforts tonight were woeful. I agree. He seems out of sorts post return which I think, is understandable but his crossing has not been what we saw last season pre-Burton. I think it'll come as he is a class act, but he seems to be lacking in confidence on the pitch at least - he does seem to be a very confident bloke in general...And I dont see a great deal from Donley but there are a lot of Spurs/Donley fan boys on socials giving it fistfuls |
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Post by mrb on Oct 1, 2024 21:08:29 GMT
We're not up to it generally. Perkins and Donley have no fire. Kelman works his nuts off but will never get more than a handful of goals in a season. Warrington and Brown are OK, nothing more. O'Neill has lost whatever he had. It's going to be a hard season. I don't blame anyone, we just can't really afford to be in EFL1. Perkins and Donley seem to bear the brunt of the criticism but I’ve got to say Graham was shocking as well. For someone who’s supposed to be a great crosser of the ball his ( rare) efforts tonight were woeful. But fish when he does put a ball in there’s no one there who can get a decent header on goal |
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Post by redintheface on Oct 1, 2024 21:08:36 GMT
3 games at home on the bounce…No win! It getting ridiculous now Or more to the point, 3 games at home on the bounce…two points out of nine gained.
I think it’s actually two points out of fifteen when you take the Bolton & Brum games into account! Results are simply not good enough at home and then some people wonder why attendance at home games are falling! |
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Post by redintheface on Oct 1, 2024 21:09:55 GMT
Perkins and Donley seem to bear the brunt of the criticism but I’ve got to say Graham was shocking as well. For someone who’s supposed to be a great crosser of the ball his ( rare) efforts tonight were woeful. I agree. He seems out of sorts post return which I think, is understandable but his crossing has not been what we saw last season pre-Burton. I think it'll come as he is a class act, but he seems to be lacking in confidence on the pitch at least - he does seem to be a very confident bloke in general... Hmmm….im not sharing his confidence at the mo tbh!😀👍 |
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Post by Thor on Oct 1, 2024 21:10:36 GMT
I didn't know the score and having just got in I've read the thread and it sounds depressing. Lots of jonahnaring going which must be the reason we lost!!
Anyway, like I've said many times Kelman is not the answer. Yes he runs alot, but so can I and I'm middle aged!
The issue is I believe the formation we play, last season we had good success with 4-2-3-1 now we seem to have moved away from that so as to accomodate Kelman and its clearly not working in terms of results. The football is nice and pretty, but the goals for column is poor.
Again we don't get a proven striker or an up coming decent one from below us in the pyramid and we will continue to struggle to score goals. Unless we change shape.
I said 18th in the table this season and we are below that, it's not looking good from a points perspective so we must work harder on the training ground to get it right.
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Post by redintheface on Oct 1, 2024 21:13:59 GMT
Perkins and Donley seem to bear the brunt of the criticism but I’ve got to say Graham was shocking as well. For someone who’s supposed to be a great crosser of the ball his ( rare) efforts tonight were woeful. But fish when he does put a ball in there’s no one there who can get a decent header on goal Tbf Kelman had one very good headed effort from a Currie cross late on that was well saved. I thought Graham was very poor tonight tbh - as an experienced player I would expect more from him than I would kids like Donley and Perkins - especially when the attack in general was mis- firing as tonight. |
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Post by Thor on Oct 1, 2024 21:16:19 GMT
61% possession
14 shots on goal
5 shots on target
6 shots off target
3 shots blocked in target
36 touches in their box oer twice as many as them
5 saves from their keeper
10 aerial duals won
Someone mentioned we were not shooting. According to the BBC who I took those stats from suggest a healthy number of shots happened, on target, off target and saves being made. Why were people saying the opposite in the thread??
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Post by mrb on Oct 1, 2024 21:17:09 GMT
But fish when he does put a ball in there’s no one there who can get a decent header on goal Tbf Kelman had one very good headed effort from a Currie cross late on that was well saved. I thought Graham was very poor tonight tbh - as an experienced player I would expect more from him than I would kids like Donley and Perkins - especially when the attack in general was mis- firing as tonight. Fair dos..Maybe a confidence thing..Even though he comes across as a confident players in his interviews |
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Post by mrb on Oct 1, 2024 21:19:45 GMT
Ritchie must be pilling his hair out with these players of ours..From his interviews and how he wants us to play,it seems the players do their own thing..
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Post by Thor on Oct 1, 2024 21:21:57 GMT
Tbf Kelman had one very good headed effort from a Currie cross late on that was well saved. I thought Graham was very poor tonight tbh - as an experienced player I would expect more from him than I would kids like Donley and Perkins - especially when the attack in general was mis- firing as tonight. Fair dos..Maybe a confidence thing..Even though he comes across as a confident players in his interviews he's not match fit yet, nowhere near. Also he's been out so long it's gonna take him half a dozen games to get his touch, rhythm and work rate back to the required level. I don't know how long he got tonight but 10 mins here or there will take longer, but I also get we are protecting him in his return which is absolutely fine with me. |
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Post by eca on Oct 1, 2024 21:24:40 GMT
That guy wattts is an absolute disgrace for holding up the play and sitting on the field.
It is a good job I was not an orient player - there is no way I would shake his hand after the match
I hope Exeter fine him big time and other managers take note to never sign him
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Post by mrb on Oct 1, 2024 21:28:12 GMT
That guy wattts is an absolute disgrace for holding up the play and sitting on the field. It is a good job I was not an orient player - there is no way I would shake his hand after the match I hope Exeter fine him big time and other managers take note to never sign him When did we last win against 10 men.. |
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Post by Fisch on Oct 1, 2024 21:32:01 GMT
Perkins and Donley seem to bear the brunt of the criticism but I’ve got to say Graham was shocking as well. For someone who’s supposed to be a great crosser of the ball his ( rare) efforts tonight were woeful. But fish when he does put a ball in there’s no one there who can get a decent header on goal It wasn't me who said anything about Graham, He's scared of hurting himself again perhaps, who wouldn't be? |
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Post by eca on Oct 1, 2024 21:32:35 GMT
61% possession 14 shots on goal 5 shots on target 6 shots off target 3 shots blocked in target 36 touches in their box oer twice as many as them 5 saves from their keeper 10 aerial duals won Someone mentioned we were not shooting. According to the BBC who I took those stats from suggest a healthy number of shots happened, on target, off target and saves being made. Why were people saying the opposite in the thread?? Because it was very noticeable the poor shooting over the bar. |
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Post by SW O on Oct 1, 2024 21:39:09 GMT
That guy wattts is an absolute disgrace for holding up the play and sitting on the field. It is a good job I was not an orient player - there is no way I would shake his hand after the match I hope Exeter fine him big time and other managers take note to never sign him When did we last win against 10 men..
10 men in added time doesn't make much difference. But you have a point.
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Post by zimo on Oct 1, 2024 21:40:17 GMT
I said it before a ball was kicked this season and I’m even more convinced now that we’re relegation bound and the reason is up front. Wellens has to take a lot of the blame, as his transfer dealings in the forward line pre-season has been abysmal.
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Post by dohnut on Oct 1, 2024 21:43:50 GMT
61% possession 14 shots on goal 5 shots on target 6 shots off target 3 shots blocked in target 36 touches in their box oer twice as many as them 5 saves from their keeper 10 aerial duals won Someone mentioned we were not shooting. According to the BBC who I took those stats from suggest a healthy number of shots happened, on target, off target and saves being made. Why were people saying the opposite in the thread?? The issue is shots on target. We don’t get many and as an avid stats reader we are generally below average, 1 against Wrexham for example despite much of the play. Even against Stockport it was 5 shots on target, 4 goals exceptional. But rare for us. That is just not good enough especially in those games where we get the lions share of possession. This Game we improved in that area second half. First half was so poor it was embarrassing. Shots off target is meaningless. And why professional footballers cannot keep the ball down is poor. |
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