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Post by Thor on Oct 30, 2024 10:24:35 GMT
Quite a few fans booed the team off at Wycombe 🤔 the team got booed at half time, not sure that's a positive event to be honest. I've never booed off an Orient team, I've booed a ref off the pitch when he was be really, really bad, for example David Ellery! We were getting beat by a better team, OK we didn't play well, but even if we did I would think that they still beat us last Sat. We go again, but we need to back the players not slaughter them. |
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Post by eca on Oct 30, 2024 10:28:54 GMT
Quite a few fans booed the team off at Wycombe 🤔 Well I just do not see how that is or would ever be productive to an improvement in performance Losing like the team did I am sure they were dejected and needed no reinforcement of that I don’t agree that managers say supporters pay the money and can then have the right to express that type of behaviour It just leads to a negative cycle for all |
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Post by redshank on Oct 30, 2024 10:53:04 GMT
Probably the thought of the trudge home after a thrashing.Possibly more common at away games than home games.
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Post by sammiiii on Oct 30, 2024 11:06:24 GMT
Quite a few fans booed the team off at Wycombe 🤔 Well I just do not see how that is or would ever be productive to an improvement in performance Losing like the team did I am sure they were dejected and needed no reinforcement of that I don’t agree that managers say supporters pay the money and can then have the right to express that type of behaviour It just leads to a negative cycle for all As much as I'd wish for fans to be encouraging all the time we can't expect it As for Wycombe, there was no fight in the performance so I can understand why there were some people who were annoyed and wanted to express it. Not an easy ground to get to either especially if you don't drive |
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Post by redintheface on Oct 30, 2024 12:00:59 GMT
I am sure the next match lofc will win and one will only here cheers I’m sure it will. |
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Post by redintheface on Oct 30, 2024 12:12:22 GMT
Well I just do not see how that is or would ever be productive to an improvement in performance Losing like the team did I am sure they were dejected and needed no reinforcement of that I don’t agree that managers say supporters pay the money and can then have the right to express that type of behaviour It just leads to a negative cycle for all As much as I'd wish for fans to be encouraging all the time we can't expect it As for Wycombe, there was no fight in the performance so I can understand why there were some people who were annoyed and wanted to express it. Not an easy ground to get to either especially if you don't drive Fair comment sammiii. People can express their feelings in various ways - booing is one of them. Better that than staying away in droves imho. Wellens is 💯 to say that fans pay their money and have the right to react to what is being served up to them as appropriate. After all if you went into a restaurant and paid for a meal but were served something half cooked and unappetising then I’m sure you’d complain rather than force it down. The principle is the same imho. Hopefully RW will soon don the chefs hat and whip up some gourmet football soon!😃👍 |
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Post by eca on Oct 30, 2024 12:18:01 GMT
I disagree to the last post
To me RW words in the interview were more of a generic comment that managers make when under pressure to align with the negative vocal crowd
The best way to keep the crowd synergy with the manager is for the team to start winning more games - it’s that simple and more appropriate statement of fact
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Post by redintheface on Oct 30, 2024 13:04:48 GMT
I think the connection between the team winning games and the crowd being happy is a long established one !😆😆
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Post by dohnut on Oct 30, 2024 13:40:30 GMT
People develop using carrot and stick. And whilst the carrot incentive is always nice, sometimes stick is called for. Fans chant, cheer, turn up in their hundreds to support the team and the players. If the team just don’t turn up then the fans have every right, maybe even a duty, to give players a wake up call.
I don’t see booing as a consequence of a result, used to poor results and almost expected against Wycombe. What is not acceptable and never will be is watching a team playing like they don’t give a toss.
Teams can lose yet still leave the pitch with cheers and clapping going on. Because fans respect effort, fight, guts, having a go. Even when the result is not a good one. But some performances deserve a bollcking and that was definitely one of them.
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Post by sammiiii on Oct 30, 2024 14:06:23 GMT
All great points and discussion in this thread.
Our league games leading up to Christmas are against a lot of teams surrounding us in the table, let's hope the team come out fighting and we will be behind them
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Post by mayland0s on Oct 30, 2024 15:11:26 GMT
Quite a few fans booed the team off at Wycombe 🤔 Fickle fans who were used to a small measure of success now getting the opposite I’m afraid . |
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Post by redshank on Oct 30, 2024 15:52:52 GMT
People develop using carrot and stick. And whilst the carrot incentive is always nice, sometimes stick is called for. Fans chant, cheer, turn up in their hundreds to support the team and the players. If the team just don’t turn up then the fans have every right, maybe even a duty, to give players a wake up call. I don’t see booing as a consequence of a result, used to poor results and almost expected against Wycombe. What is not acceptable and never will be is watching a team playing like they don’t give a toss. Teams can lose yet still leave the pitch with cheers and clapping going on. Because fans respect effort, fight, guts, having a go. Even when the result is not a good one. But some performances deserve a bollcking and that was definitely one of them. The team playing as if they don't give a toss usually comes at the end of the season say March onwards.Those who know they will not be here the next season are the main culprits.I have not seen any sign yet of not giving a toss at the home League games I have seen,Exeter City was just poor form and a better team won well.Away games I cannot judge as I have not seen any. |
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Post by Nick312 on Oct 31, 2024 23:09:05 GMT
That is shocking form, not just poor. The club needs to examine this problem because we can't keep relying on great away surprises (Portsmouth last season springs to mind). The team needs to create a fortress at Brisbane Road, no doubt about it. This is where the vast numbers of supporters watch their team. It's where we know the atmosphere and the shape of the ground. Where we should feel "at home". The results seem to indicate that we are an easy number. I wonder what the equivalent statistics for the other clubs show. Are we the worst in the league at home? |
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Post by downundero on Nov 1, 2024 9:39:02 GMT
Ah, but regardless we all have the sickness, don't we? I have just reactivated my dormant Optus Sport Subscription over here ($24.99 AUD per month or, about 12 quid) as I had to google where I could possibly stream the away FA Cup tie at Boring Wood... Now doomed by choice, to go to bed Sunday night about 9pm, sleep for a few precious hours and emerge, like an optimistic dracula at 1.00am Australian time on Monday morning to watch us doubtless exit the cup.... It's madness. I only missed the Wycombe game because I was away up north here on a family reunion...
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Post by dohnut on Nov 1, 2024 9:49:53 GMT
Ah, but regardless we all have the sickness, don't we? I have just reactivated my dormant Optus Sport Subscription over here ($24.99 AUD per month or, about 12 quid) as I had to google where I could possibly stream the away FA Cup tie at Boring Wood... Now doomed by choice, to go to bed Sunday night about 9pm, sleep for a few precious hours and emerge, like an optimistic dracula at 1.00am Australian time on Monday morning to watch us doubtless exit the cup.... It's madness. I only missed the Wycombe game because I was away up north here on a family reunion... We’re going to win. |
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Post by dohnut on Nov 1, 2024 9:58:26 GMT
People develop using carrot and stick. And whilst the carrot incentive is always nice, sometimes stick is called for. Fans chant, cheer, turn up in their hundreds to support the team and the players. If the team just don’t turn up then the fans have every right, maybe even a duty, to give players a wake up call. I don’t see booing as a consequence of a result, used to poor results and almost expected against Wycombe. What is not acceptable and never will be is watching a team playing like they don’t give a toss. Teams can lose yet still leave the pitch with cheers and clapping going on. Because fans respect effort, fight, guts, having a go. Even when the result is not a good one. But some performances deserve a bollcking and that was definitely one of them. The team playing as if they don't give a toss usually comes at the end of the season say March onwards.Those who know they will not be here the next season are the main culprits.I have not seen any sign yet of not giving a toss at the home League games I have seen,Exeter City was just poor form and a better team won well.Away games I cannot judge as I have not seen any. It doesn’t take too much to go from a team trying to one that has accepted defeat. Maybe they do give a toss but their play doesn’t reflect that. Which is what we see. After going a goal down to Wycombe I had accepted the inevitable loss, the only question was how big. It looked like the players felt the same way. 5 minutes gone, game over. The game is also played in the mind and we don’t seem to be in a good place. |
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Post by dohnut on Nov 1, 2024 10:00:09 GMT
That is shocking form, not just poor. The club needs to examine this problem because we can't keep relying on great away surprises (Portsmouth last season springs to mind). The team needs to create a fortress at Brisbane Road, no doubt about it. This is where the vast numbers of supporters watch their team. It's where we know the atmosphere and the shape of the ground. Where we should feel "at home". The results seem to indicate that we are an easy number. I wonder what the equivalent statistics for the other clubs show. Are we the worst in the league at home? Didn’t realise our home form was so poor until figures start to be rolled out. Not cheering me up a great deal. Truly shocking. |
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Post by redshank on Nov 1, 2024 10:58:13 GMT
Just shows how patient the home support is,hate the silent shuffle out after a defeat and just as I pass the away end fans I hear them cheering their teams victory,that compounds the already compounded misery.
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Post by dohnut on Nov 1, 2024 11:10:46 GMT
Just shows how patient the home support is,hate the silent shuffle out after a defeat and just as I pass the away end fans I hear them cheering their teams victory,that compounds the already compounded misery. Passing the away fans cheering is my pet hate. In the east last season, close to the away lot. Didn’t like it one bit. |
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Post by redshank on Nov 1, 2024 12:11:54 GMT
Just shows how patient the home support is,hate the silent shuffle out after a defeat and just as I pass the away end fans I hear them cheering their teams victory,that compounds the already compounded misery. Passing the away fans cheering is my pet hate. In the east last season, close to the away lot. Didn’t like it one bit. Plus the smell of diesel with the coaches engines running,some fantastic coaches nevertheless.The oldest one I have seen was for the Barrow supporters.Often ask the driver how long the journey took,I am sure I saw Phil Bennett the Rugby player driving a coach. I am a transport nerd and often stand and watch immaculate HGV vehicles with long trailers backing into spaces that look difficult for a big car to access. |
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