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Post by Thor on Dec 9, 2023 2:49:14 GMT
So what did Kissinger do wrong then? to Deserve that postscript I’m just saying that he is a controversial figure who inspires heated debate. He is likely the most powerful person in the world in the latter half of the twentieth century. He inspires strong feelings in some both here and abroad. I will say that there have been few people with cold indifference to the most vulnerable people on the planet. I would encourage everyone to read a little about it him. He has affected us all, for better or ill. I’m here as a guest of a good group of people, and I have no ill intentions, billericayo. I do appreciate your sentiments. I think this would set your mind at ease about the departed. Here is what a New York Times author said in a review of a book about Kissinger’s life: “ When the nefarious Cardinal Richelieu died in 1642, Pope Urban VIII is said to have declared: “If there is a God, the Cardinal de Richelieu will have much to answer for. If not … well, he had a successful life.” Henry Kissinger likes that anecdote. He cites it in his writings.” As for me, I’m hoping for a win against Derby County. Cheers. I think evil could be applied against this individual. I am with you OSC |
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Post by kbola on Dec 9, 2023 5:14:30 GMT
Ryan O'Neal, actor, dead at 82. RIP
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Post by Fisch on Dec 9, 2023 7:31:28 GMT
Back to Kissinger for a moment... His methods appealed to me as a young man who thought JFDI was the way to achieve things but, as l matured, l learnt that simple answers get votes but on the backs of the mainly innocent.
His critics view him as a ruthless and unapologetic pragmatist who prioritized power and expediency over human rights and ethical principles. They argue that his actions caused immense suffering and instability, particularly in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Chile. Henry Kissinger's legacy is a complex one marked by both great achievements and profound controversies. His role in shaping American foreign policy and his impact on the world stage continue to be debated and analyzed. His "Realpolitik" resulted in rivers of blood.
OSC put it more diplomatically but his reluctance to eulogise Kissinger is well founded.
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Post by dohnut on Dec 9, 2023 8:35:08 GMT
So what did Kissinger do wrong then? to Deserve that postscript I’m just saying that he is a controversial figure who inspires heated debate. He is likely the most powerful person in the world in the latter half of the twentieth century. He inspires strong feelings in some both here and abroad. I will say that there have been few people with cold indifference to the most vulnerable people on the planet. I would encourage everyone to read a little about it him. He has affected us all, for better or ill. I’m here as a guest of a good group of people, and I have no ill intentions, billericayo. I do appreciate your sentiments. I think this would set your mind at ease about the departed. Here is what a New York Times author said in a review of a book about Kissinger’s life: “ When the nefarious Cardinal Richelieu died in 1642, Pope Urban VIII is said to have declared: “If there is a God, the Cardinal de Richelieu will have much to answer for. If not … well, he had a successful life.” Henry Kissinger likes that anecdote. He cites it in his writings.” As for me, I’m hoping for a win against Derby County. Cheers. My memories of Kissinger are vague. So I’ve taken your advice and started doing some reading. He certainly divides opinion. From a Nobel Peace prize winner to accusations of Americas worst mass murderer. That is some legacy. Going to be hard to form a view, depends on what you read. Any suggestions on a balanced publication would be useful if there is such a thing. |
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Post by redshank on Dec 9, 2023 12:46:07 GMT
Ryan O'Neal,a handsome man and a good actor.If you have not seen Barry Lyndon with Ryan as the eponymous hero which was directed by the great Stanley Kubrick I suggest you see it.In the top three of my favourite films.
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Post by orientsc on Dec 9, 2023 12:50:42 GMT
I’m just saying that he is a controversial figure who inspires heated debate. He is likely the most powerful person in the world in the latter half of the twentieth century. He inspires strong feelings in some both here and abroad. I will say that there have been few people with cold indifference to the most vulnerable people on the planet. I would encourage everyone to read a little about it him. He has affected us all, for better or ill. I’m here as a guest of a good group of people, and I have no ill intentions, billericayo. I do appreciate your sentiments. I think this would set your mind at ease about the departed. Here is what a New York Times author said in a review of a book about Kissinger’s life: “ When the nefarious Cardinal Richelieu died in 1642, Pope Urban VIII is said to have declared: “If there is a God, the Cardinal de Richelieu will have much to answer for. If not … well, he had a successful life.” Henry Kissinger likes that anecdote. He cites it in his writings.” As for me, I’m hoping for a win against Derby County. Cheers. My memories of Kissinger are vague. So I’ve taken your advice and started doing some reading. He certainly divides opinion. From a Nobel Peace prize winner to accusations of Americas worst mass murderer. That is some legacy. Going to be hard to form a view, depends on what you read. Any suggestions on a balanced publication would be useful if there is such a thing. I think Walter Issacson’s biography is balanced based on what is known to scholars and the public now. I love history, but it’s a complex field and it often takes substantial time for a true informed and balanced view to develop. |
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Post by billericayo on Dec 10, 2023 2:09:01 GMT
So what did Kissinger do wrong then? to Deserve that postscript I’m just saying that he is a controversial figure who inspires heated debate. He is likely the most powerful person in the world in the latter half of the twentieth century. He inspires strong feelings in some both here and abroad. I will say that there have been few people with cold indifference to the most vulnerable people on the planet. I would encourage everyone to read a little about it him. He has affected us all, for better or ill. I’m here as a guest of a good group of people, and I have no ill intentions, billericayo. I do appreciate your sentiments. I think this would set your mind at ease about the departed. Here is what a New York Times author said in a review of a book about Kissinger’s life: “ When the nefarious Cardinal Richelieu died in 1642, Pope Urban VIII is said to have declared: “If there is a God, the Cardinal de Richelieu will have much to answer for. If not … well, he had a successful life.” Henry Kissinger likes that anecdote. He cites it in his writings.” As for me, I’m hoping for a win against Derby County. Cheers. Wasn't controversial over hear, We had no reason to listen to a Yank, he sank out of sight. Again with the words of a Pope, We would of not have been interested or even listened, He's a Catholic and we are Church of England, I predicted we would lose three nil the day before the game. I doubt we will score before Christmas, same as my love life actually |
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Post by redintheface on Dec 11, 2023 17:10:53 GMT
RIP Shirley Ann Field 87. Attractive and talented actress who was born in Forest Gate and starred alongside Albert Finley in “ Saturday Night & Sunday Morning” - still one of the best British films ever made in my view.
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Post by watfordo on Dec 11, 2023 17:28:14 GMT
I’m just saying that he is a controversial figure who inspires heated debate. He is likely the most powerful person in the world in the latter half of the twentieth century. He inspires strong feelings in some both here and abroad. I will say that there have been few people with cold indifference to the most vulnerable people on the planet. I would encourage everyone to read a little about it him. He has affected us all, for better or ill. I’m here as a guest of a good group of people, and I have no ill intentions, billericayo. I do appreciate your sentiments. I think this would set your mind at ease about the departed. Here is what a New York Times author said in a review of a book about Kissinger’s life: “ When the nefarious Cardinal Richelieu died in 1642, Pope Urban VIII is said to have declared: “If there is a God, the Cardinal de Richelieu will have much to answer for. If not … well, he had a successful life.” Henry Kissinger likes that anecdote. He cites it in his writings.” As for me, I’m hoping for a win against Derby County. Cheers. Wasn't controversial over hear, We had no reason to listen to a Yank, he sank out of sight. Again with the words of a Pope, We would of not have been interested or even listened, He's a Catholic and we are Church of England, I predicted we would lose three nil the day before the game. I doubt we will score before Christmas, same as my love life actually What nonsense. I can only assume your lack of ‘action’ is contributing to your horrible outlook. |
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Post by kbola on Dec 11, 2023 17:37:56 GMT
Wasn't controversial over hear, We had no reason to listen to a Yank, he sank out of sight. Again with the words of a Pope, We would of not have been interested or even listened, He's a Catholic and we are Church of England, I predicted we would lose three nil the day before the game. I doubt we will score before Christmas, same as my love life actually What nonsense. I can only assume your lack of ‘action’ is contributing to your horrible outlook. That's right watfordo. Women love me because of my positive demeanour and my big, thick.....wallet |
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Post by billericayo on Dec 11, 2023 23:57:51 GMT
Wasn't controversial over hear, We had no reason to listen to a Yank, he sank out of sight. Again with the words of a Pope, We would of not have been interested or even listened, He's a Catholic and we are Church of England, I predicted we would lose three nil the day before the game. I doubt we will score before Christmas, same as my love life actually What nonsense. I can only assume your lack of ‘action’ is contributing to your horrible outlook. It's good to know that my lack of action will soon come to an end according to watfordo, I'll put you on my contact list, although some of you seem to want to be closer to the action, tickets can be purchased from yours truly |
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Post by kbola on Dec 13, 2023 6:00:15 GMT
Andre Braugher, actor best known for Brooklyn 99, dead at 61 RIP
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Post by redshank on Dec 13, 2023 11:05:40 GMT
RIP Shirley Ann Field 87. Attractive and talented actress who was born in Forest Gate and starred alongside Albert Finley in “ Saturday Night & Sunday Morning” - still one of the best British films ever made in my view. Very much agree,Shirley had classy good looks.Was she the sanatorium nurse in Alfie? Could be a new thread;Great British films. |
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Post by kbola on Dec 13, 2023 20:01:53 GMT
Jeffery Foskett, musician with The Beach Boys, dead at 67. RIP
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Post by kbola on Dec 13, 2023 20:02:31 GMT
Sienna Miller, actress, pregnant at 41. Congratulations
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Post by kbola on Dec 24, 2023 5:28:40 GMT
Laura Lynch, singer and founder of The Dixie Chicks, dead at 65 RIP
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Post by redintheface on Dec 24, 2023 11:16:04 GMT
Many happy returns to Stan Bowles - 75 years old today. Imho possibly the most talented player I’ve ever seen in an O’s shirt.  |
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Post by mrb on Dec 24, 2023 14:22:53 GMT
Many happy returns to Stan Bowles - 75 years old today. Imho possibly the most talented player I’ve ever seen in an O’s shirt. View AttachmentGreat player for the Os..Even if he was past his best by date when he joined us..Class player |
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Post by Thor on Dec 24, 2023 15:04:27 GMT
Many happy returns to Stan Bowles - 75 years old today. Imho possibly the most talented player I’ve ever seen in an O’s shirt. View Attachmentwearing our best kit to boot as well. |
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Post by redshank on Dec 25, 2023 18:14:17 GMT
Our biggest and most surprising signing of all time.
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