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Post by Ramrod on Dec 26, 2020 22:47:47 GMT
"Doesn't feel concerned" = The knives are out For who? For the players. It wouldn't bother me particularly if it were the management, but the players will feel it first.
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Post by Ramrod on Dec 26, 2020 23:02:46 GMT
I've said it loads of times and will say it again ( and get slaughtered ) Ling snr runs the team and until he goes nowt will improve 🤔 I don't see Ling getting the push under any circumstances, but I think he might just decide to call it a day at the end of this season.
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Post by dohnut on Dec 26, 2020 23:14:52 GMT
It appears that people on this MB only want to hear what they want to hear or turn a nothing comment into something because it suits them ! i suppose it will fall on deaf ears when I say again that we are an average team with average management who are just stabilising this little club of ours ! I think you're right in terms of Senda's "not concerned" comment. He's a young football coach, not a seasoned politician, so we can't jump on every sentence with an "aha!". However, l do believe he wanted to distance himself from the way the subs were used. Exactly why I’ll listen to it again and not in a nit-picking way. I actually like the fact he is not a seasoned politician. I’m also conscious of his not wanting to say anything that could cause embarrassment for Ross, or even be taken that way. That interview must have been really difficult. Don’t recall any comments about the pitch, referee, conditions, long journey, injuries, not enough time on the training pitch, it was a Saturday and too soon after Christmas Day. Did hear some very honest points. I’ll listen again tomorrow, when I’m not so peeed off about yet another poor defeat against a mediocre team.
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Post by disoriented on Dec 27, 2020 7:55:09 GMT
Why would it have been difficult? It is his job. If Senda can’t stand the heat, he shouldn't be in the kitchen.
Or in the dugout.
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Post by dohnut on Dec 27, 2020 8:21:18 GMT
Why would it have been difficult? It is his job. If Senda can’t stand the heat, he shouldn't be in the kitchen. Or in the dugout. Loyalty to his boss makes it difficult. Bad run of results, poor performances, then this. He could so easily have said something that generated more criticism of Ross. Even Senda said stuff. Ross gets enough flack, deservedly so quite often in my opinion. But publicly from his number 2, even unintentionally, is not on.
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Post by redintheface on Dec 27, 2020 8:41:26 GMT
I think you're right in terms of Senda's "not concerned" comment. He's a young football coach, not a seasoned politician, so we can't jump on every sentence with an "aha!". However, l do believe he wanted to distance himself from the way the subs were used. Exactly why I’ll listen to it again and not in a nit-picking way. I actually like the fact he is not a seasoned politician. I’m also conscious of his not wanting to say anything that could cause embarrassment for Ross, or even be taken that way. That interview must have been really difficult. Don’t recall any comments about the pitch, referee, conditions, long journey, injuries, not enough time on the training pitch, it was a Saturday and too soon after Christmas Day. Did hear some very honest points. I’ll listen again tomorrow, when I’m not so peeed off about yet another poor defeat against a mediocre team. No “ nit picking” my friend . A comment from ANY member of the club’s coaching staff that describes our recent run of results ( 9 losses out of the last 13 games) as not a concern stands out as plain as a pikestaff imho. I’m sure the interview must have been difficult but if that is a genuine representation of the attitude within the club then there is a worrying complacency behind the scenes that may well be transmitting itself to the players.
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Post by redintheface on Dec 27, 2020 9:13:32 GMT
At least O’s legend Peter Kitchen shares my concern😅😇
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Post by mrb on Dec 27, 2020 9:42:54 GMT
Peter Kitchen talks sense
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Post by Ramrod on Dec 27, 2020 10:49:32 GMT
It sounds a little like Danny didn't like the way the subs were used - or who they were perhaps? I must admit I didn't pick up on any internal differences of opinion, however slight, within the management. The dissatisfaction seemed to me to be purely from management's side with some of the players. And how justified is the management's criticism? Can you criticise players for not doing a job when some clearly aren't up to it? That's been evident since day 1 irrespective of the results. If you combine muddled organisation by the management with substandard players you get what we've got now.
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Post by redshank on Dec 27, 2020 11:19:41 GMT
I did not see the match.Were we that bad, and were the subs worse than those remaining. Gets on my wick that we keep losing,now and then is acceptable with the odd draw thrown in.But constant defeats are a neddy no no.
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Post by Fisch on Dec 27, 2020 12:58:45 GMT
I did not see the match.Were we that bad, and were the subs worse than those remaining. Gets on my wick that we keep losing,now and then is acceptable with the odd draw thrown in.But constant defeats are a neddy no no. I don't think we were bad at all, but on two occasions, we let their forwards move into empty space in our penalty area, and NOBODY went to cover them. That cost us 2 goals and undid everything that had been built up to that point.
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Post by posho on Dec 27, 2020 13:12:39 GMT
I agree with Kitchen. Good analysis. This is league 2 not the premiership. There are players here that have footballing ability but not league 2 nous and aggression and desire. The epotmy for mr is Cisse. His presence should frighten the opposition but hes a pussy cat. Ebou Adams is the proof
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Post by MungO on Dec 27, 2020 13:31:41 GMT
I did not see the match.Were we that bad, and were the subs worse than those remaining. Gets on my wick that we keep losing,now and then is acceptable with the odd draw thrown in.But constant defeats are a neddy no no. I don't think we were bad at all, but on two occasions, we let their forwards move into empty space in our penalty area, and NOBODY went to cover them. That cost us 2 goals and undid everything that had been built up to that point. I thought we were terrible considering the opposition. I suppose you could argue we played better than them, but that in itself is false praise. Cambridge were terrible and won, we were terrible and lost.
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Post by dohnut on Dec 27, 2020 15:57:54 GMT
Listened to it again in bed this morning. Sad Git. Mrs dOh said he sounds good. She knows nothing about football (Spurs fan) but was impressed. To be honest, so was I. He talks, I want to listen. He has gravitas. No endless crap excuses and nonsense bolox, just to the business of football.
His comments about not being concerned I think have more to do with the quality of the squad than recent results, just a blip for an otherwise decent squad. His belief that this season all teams are much of a muchness is spot on. The gap between top and bottom is very little. Why I get hacked off that we have thrown away 12 point in 5 games. peeing away our chances.
What I find very disturbing is the oft repeated “we talk about this, players don’t do what they are told”. stuff. Have to say why. Are the players stupid? Doubt it. Are the instructions so complex they cannot be understood? Are the instructions being communicated clearly? Do the players think the instructions are plain bolox.
Senda talked about naveity. Yup, but not with the players, look to the Boss. With so much experience in the squad they are not naive, been round the block and back again. They know the score. The issue is how we are set up, how we play. Ineffective, boring, tedious. Plain dangerous. No wonder the players get hacked off, they must be as frustrated as us.
I get hacked off watching us play, imagine what it’s like for the players. People criticise our quality, look around, tell me who. we have played that stand out. Buggered if I can see.
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