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Post by redintheface on Jan 6, 2023 18:39:15 GMT
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Post by oreo on Jan 6, 2023 19:05:30 GMT
That's not good news. Do we know if it is the same knee Happe injured last season? I just hope Smyth isn't coming back too early. Can't afford to lose him for any period of time. We need his goals.
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Post by redintheface on Jan 6, 2023 19:21:32 GMT
Nothing specific disclosed in the interview about the nature or location of the injury.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 6, 2023 19:37:46 GMT
Feel for Happe. Doesn’t deserve that.
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Post by mujtahido on Jan 6, 2023 19:50:46 GMT
Injuries were the only thing that was going to stop us from running away with the title this season our home form is going to be essential from here on in losing virtually all our central defenders is a very big deal as we had the best defence in the league by far we are now going to need the likes of Moncur and Archibald to really step up that said I still believe we have enough quality to gain promotion or win the league
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Post by Fisch on Jan 6, 2023 20:28:28 GMT
RW said that Dan had come back from a worse injury, this one is "his ACL". That's all l can gather from it
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Post by Ramrod on Jan 7, 2023 12:19:16 GMT
RW said that Dan had come back from a worse injury, this one is "his ACL". That's all l can gather from it If my ancient ears are to be trusted, I think RW said that Happe had done his "MCL", which I take to be marginally better than an ACL injury.
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Post by Fisch on Jan 7, 2023 12:21:26 GMT
RW said that Dan had come back from a worse injury, this one is "his ACL". That's all l can gather from it If my ancient ears are to be trusted, I think RW said that Happe had done his "MCL", which I take to be marginally better than an ACL injury. I'm sure you're right Ramrod.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jan 7, 2023 13:13:47 GMT
RW said that Dan had come back from a worse injury, this one is "his ACL". That's all l can gather from it If my ancient ears are to be trusted, I think RW said that Happe had done his "MCL", which I take to be marginally better than an ACL injury. Medial collateral ligament (MCL) injury
As for myself, every sympathy with people suffering from knee injuries, both of my knees are in a bad way and to top it all, I fell on ice and snow on my drive on 17th December and badly twisted my right knee,which first got injured 50 years ago with ACL football injury. I spent all Christmas in bed, ( still unable to put any weight on my right knee ) First 7 nights in agony with no sleep and on crutches now. Really bad luck for both of these young central defenders to both get these bad injuries at this time of the season, what with Beckles being suspended for 3 matches, well never rains, then it pours !
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Post by redintheface on Jan 7, 2023 13:21:18 GMT
RW said that Dan had come back from a worse injury, this one is "his ACL". That's all l can gather from it If my ancient ears are to be trusted, I think RW said that Happe had done his "MCL", which I take to be marginally better than an ACL injury. Didn’t pick up on that in the interview Ramrod so my ears must be in worse shape than yours! Whatever the precise nature of the injury to poor old Dan is I’m sure we all wish him well for a full and speedy recovery.
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Post by Thor on Jan 7, 2023 20:40:30 GMT
If my ancient ears are to be trusted, I think RW said that Happe had done his "MCL", which I take to be marginally better than an ACL injury. Medial collateral ligament (MCL) injury
As for myself, every sympathy with people suffering from knee injuries, both of my knees are in a bad way and to top it all, I fell on ice and snow on my drive on 17th December and badly twisted my right knee,which first got injured 50 years ago with ACL football injury. I spent all Christmas in bed, ( still unable to put any weight on my right knee ) First 7 nights in agony with no sleep and on crutches now. Really bad luck for both of these young central defenders to both get these bad injuries at this time of the season, what with Beckles being suspended for 3 matches, well never rains, then it pours !
I did my medial ligament when I was 12, I was out for about 3 months as well and thankfully I had Bill Songhurst to look after and treat me. What I do know is any problems I've ever had with either knee has always been in the one I tore my MCL in. Weird. Once its sorted he will be good to go, I didn't have any relapses or issues with it again.
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Post by Fisch on Jan 7, 2023 20:49:26 GMT
.... I did my medial ligament when I was 12, I was out for about 3 months as well and thankfully I had Bill Songhurst to look after and treat me. What I do know is any problems I've ever had with either knee has always been in the one I tore my MCL in. Weird. Once its sorted he will be good to go, I didn't have any relapses or issues with it again. Did you face any psychological problems about trusting your knee won't 'go' again unlesss you rein back on the physical stuff?
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Post by Thor on Jan 7, 2023 21:26:28 GMT
At first yes I was apprehensive and I guess scared of more time on the sidelines, but once the first challenge went in I was alright and never looked back again. When I say challenge I'm talking about a proper tackle, full on not battling for a 50/50.
These ligaments are nigh on always done in a challenge, mine was from the side and I knew straight away I was in trouble, didn't know what I'd done just the pain was immense and I couldn't run once the magic sponge had been applied.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jan 8, 2023 10:56:30 GMT
At first yes I was apprehensive and I guess scared of more time on the sidelines, but once the first challenge went in I was alright and never looked back again. When I say challenge I'm talking about a proper tackle, full on not battling for a 50/50. These ligaments are nigh on always done in a challenge, mine was from the side and I knew straight away I was in trouble, didn't know what I'd done just the pain was immense and I couldn't run once the magic sponge had been applied. Knee pain can be as you say ''immense'' after ligament damage. My ACL knee ligaments went after a strong 50-50 tackle, knee kept giving way after that injury gained 50 odd years ago. In years gone by, there were no good available operations for those type of knee injuries, so one rash challenge and despite 4 operations since, no success and over 50 years of knee problems for me.
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Post by Thor on Jan 8, 2023 11:19:37 GMT
At first yes I was apprehensive and I guess scared of more time on the sidelines, but once the first challenge went in I was alright and never looked back again. When I say challenge I'm talking about a proper tackle, full on not battling for a 50/50. These ligaments are nigh on always done in a challenge, mine was from the side and I knew straight away I was in trouble, didn't know what I'd done just the pain was immense and I couldn't run once the magic sponge had been applied. Knee pain can be as you say ''immense'' after ligament damage. My ACL knee ligaments went after a strong 50-50 tackle, knee kept giving way after that injury gained 50 odd years ago. In years gone by, there were no good available operations for those type of knee injuries, so one rash challenge and despite 4 operations since, no success and over 50 years of knee problems for me. As I understand it the medical profession couldn’t do anything for an ACL back then, whereas now it’s seems to be quite a common injury. A friend of mine did he ACL playing football and he said it always felt like it would collapse at anytime until he had the operation. Now he plays football again, so medical science has moved on massively in our lifetimes.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jan 8, 2023 21:15:32 GMT
Knee pain can be as you say ''immense'' after ligament damage. My ACL knee ligaments went after a strong 50-50 tackle, knee kept giving way after that injury gained 50 odd years ago. In years gone by, there were no good available operations for those type of knee injuries, so one rash challenge and despite 4 operations since, no success and over 50 years of knee problems for me. As I understand it the medical profession couldn’t do anything for an ACL back then, whereas now it’s seems to be quite a common injury. A friend of mine did he ACL playing football and he said it always felt like it would collapse at anytime until he had the operation. Now he plays football again, so medical science has moved on massively in our lifetimes. A lot of top women footballers get ACL injuries, Englands Beth Mead and Netherlands Vivianne Miedema both of Arsenal recently picked up ACL knee injuries. Much research is going on as to why such a high percentage of women who play football get this injury in comparison to their male counterparts.
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Post by Thor on Jan 8, 2023 21:38:05 GMT
As I understand it the medical profession couldn’t do anything for an ACL back then, whereas now it’s seems to be quite a common injury. A friend of mine did he ACL playing football and he said it always felt like it would collapse at anytime until he had the operation. Now he plays football again, so medical science has moved on massively in our lifetimes. A lot of top women footballers get ACL injuries, Englands Beth Mead and Netherlands Vivianne Miedema both of Arsenal recently picked up ACL knee injuries. Much research is going on as to why such a high percentage of women who play football get this injury in comparison to their male counterparts. I read that recently which was a wow moment for me, naturally I though it must be because of the muscle composition is not as dense or as strong as a man. The comparison between men and women suffering the same injury is off the scale,3 to 6 times more likely, if it were premier league men an Inquest would have been ordered as the margin is that great. Apparently, there is a common denominator which is the monthly menstrual cycle and that is where the research and investigation is heading right now. The stats say that virtually all of the injuries happened when they were on their periods specifically during the first 2 days when joint strength is reduced along with reduced joint laxity. Its suggested that contraceptives can reduce the risk of sustaining such an injury by 20% so further work and study is required to understand why and how and what prevention methods can be deployed to help reduce the chances of sustaining such an injury.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jan 9, 2023 13:37:13 GMT
I read that recently which was a wow moment for me, naturally I though it must be because of the muscle composition is not as dense or as strong as a man. The comparison between men and women suffering the same injury is off the scale,3 to 6 times more likely, if it were premier league men an Inquest would have been ordered as the margin is that great. Apparently, there is a common denominator which is the monthly menstrual cycle and that is where the research and investigation is heading right now. The stats say that virtually all of the injuries happened when they were on their periods specifically during the first 2 days when joint strength is reduced along with reduced joint laxity. Its suggested that contraceptives can reduce the risk of sustaining such an injury by 20% so further work and study is required to understand why and how and what prevention methods can be deployed to help reduce the chances of sustaining such an injury. Yes correct, I read much the same information, plus also talk of womens bodies being different, wider hips, different angles to knees and also of women using mens boots, need for boots designed for womens feet, shorter studs etc. Sad for Beth and Vivienne that5 their injuries will most likely rule them out of playing in this years women's world cup. Vivianne Miedema had just been coming back to form for Arsenal after suffering from burnt out after the Euro cup and also exhaustion after a bad bought of the Covid infection.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jan 9, 2023 13:38:55 GMT
What is the injury that Ogie has sustained ?
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Post by mrb on Jan 9, 2023 14:47:44 GMT
What is the injury that Ogie has sustained ? Hamstring I believe
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