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Post by mayland0s on Feb 7, 2023 16:30:20 GMT
Yes they can if there isn’t room in the national league South . Interesting. What is the most southern team to have played in National league north and vice versa. At the present I believe it is Kings Lynn from the south , at present . |
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Post by osoldguy on Feb 7, 2023 17:30:59 GMT
Interesting. What is the most southern team to have played in National league north and vice versa. At the present I believe it is Kings Lynn from the south , at present . Why should anyone be surprised at the slippery oily individuals that govern some football clubs. Big business with foreign investment from countries where corruption is the norm. You don't have to look far to Barcelona and Real Madrid that teeter on the edge of extinction every year, only allegedly to be saved financially by the Spanish Govt. |
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Post by dohnut on Feb 7, 2023 17:56:22 GMT
At the present I believe it is Kings Lynn from the south , at present . Why should anyone be surprised at the slippery oily individuals that govern some football clubs. Big business with foreign investment from countries where corruption is the norm. You don't have to look far to Barcelona and Real Madrid that teeter on the edge of extinction every year, only allegedly to be saved financially by the Spanish Govt. Hi osoldguy. I cannot comment on the corruption aspect. I’m personally not aware of any specifics. But as for foreign investment, I don’t think as a club we would exist today without it. So personally I’m grateful for overseas investment. Long may it continue and can we have some more please. As for clubs being saved financially via Government subsidy. My take on this is simple. I’m willing to bet up and down the U.K. there are many clubs at lots of levels whose future is assured by having favourable dealings with the local councils. By favourable I mean councils who don’t take full advantage of the land value and potential income by letting football teams use the land at a cost well below market rate. A community subsidy thing. The only difference between that at the Spanish Giants is the Sums of money involved. But the principle is the same. |
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Post by mujtahido on Feb 7, 2023 18:08:19 GMT
FIFA was bought off so I’m pretty sure the F.A will go the same way
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Post by Thor on Feb 7, 2023 18:14:51 GMT
Why should anyone be surprised at the slippery oily individuals that govern some football clubs. Big business with foreign investment from countries where corruption is the norm. You don't have to look far to Barcelona and Real Madrid that teeter on the edge of extinction every year, only allegedly to be saved financially by the Spanish Govt. Hi osoldguy. I cannot comment on the corruption aspect. I’m personally not aware of any specifics. But as for foreign investment, I don’t think as a club we would exist today without it. So personally I’m grateful for overseas investment. Long may it continue and can we have some more please. As for clubs being saved financially via Government subsidy. My take on this is simple. I’m willing to bet up and down the U.K. there are many clubs at lots of levels whose future is assured by having favourable dealings with the local councils. By favourable I mean councils who don’t take full advantage of the land value and potential income by letting football teams use the land at a cost well below market rate. A community subsidy thing. The only difference between that at the Spanish Giants is the Sums of money involved. But the principle is the same. I doubt that's happening seems far fetched to me. Councils are skint up and down the country. |
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Post by Thor on Feb 7, 2023 18:15:13 GMT
FIFA was bought off so I’m pretty sure the F.A will go the same way fifa yes and I hope that it never happens to the fa |
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Post by dohnut on Feb 7, 2023 19:07:24 GMT
Hi osoldguy. I cannot comment on the corruption aspect. I’m personally not aware of any specifics. But as for foreign investment, I don’t think as a club we would exist today without it. So personally I’m grateful for overseas investment. Long may it continue and can we have some more please. As for clubs being saved financially via Government subsidy. My take on this is simple. I’m willing to bet up and down the U.K. there are many clubs at lots of levels whose future is assured by having favourable dealings with the local councils. By favourable I mean councils who don’t take full advantage of the land value and potential income by letting football teams use the land at a cost well below market rate. A community subsidy thing. The only difference between that at the Spanish Giants is the Sums of money involved. But the principle is the same. I doubt that's happening seems far fetched to me. Councils are skint up and down the country. I don’t know Thor. I’d be interested in finding out but have no idea how to. Skint. They are not shelling out a penny, just not getting the income they could. Slightly different. I know many playing fields have been lost to development. Sports England are heavily involved in protection. So I assume there is revenue to be had from the land plus future rates and councils who do not turn all playing fields into housing are in effect subsidising those that use the fields. Community before income. That and they want to stay in power. Quite right? Is it better to have a football field or a couple of dozen much needed houses? That the politics. But the net effect is the same. If the council manage the land and don’t use it for maximum financial gain, they are subsidising the users of that land. That will include many football clubs up and down the country. I know Test Valley Borough Council approved the use of land for Andover Town my local team and where I enjoy the odd game.. I’m willing to bet the council could have turned it over to developers and made far more money. It’s not beyond the realms of probability to find many examples of councils who have turned over land for football clubs, and charge clubs lower than the going rate. I ask myself could the Council who owned Brisbane Road have made more money than they did out of the club? My guess is yes. |
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Post by fortissimo on Feb 7, 2023 19:27:05 GMT
Im not crying for Manchester City
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Post by ostralia on Feb 8, 2023 3:52:42 GMT
Hi osoldguy. I cannot comment on the corruption aspect. I’m personally not aware of any specifics. But as for foreign investment, I don’t think as a club we would exist today without it. So personally I’m grateful for overseas investment. Long may it continue and can we have some more please. As for clubs being saved financially via Government subsidy. My take on this is simple. I’m willing to bet up and down the U.K. there are many clubs at lots of levels whose future is assured by having favourable dealings with the local councils. By favourable I mean councils who don’t take full advantage of the land value and potential income by letting football teams use the land at a cost well below market rate. A community subsidy thing. The only difference between that at the Spanish Giants is the Sums of money involved. But the principle is the same. I doubt that's happening seems far fetched to me. Councils are skint up and down the country. Rather than being far fetched I’d say it would be scandalous if it wasn’t happening. Councils don’t exist to make money. They exist to make life better for their residents. Yes, of course they have to be financially viable, but council assets should have community benefit as their primary goal, income generation a secondary consideration. |
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Post by dohnut on Feb 8, 2023 11:41:01 GMT
I doubt that's happening seems far fetched to me. Councils are skint up and down the country. Rather than being far fetched I’d say it would be scandalous if it wasn’t happening. Councils don’t exist to make money. They exist to make life better for their residents. Yes, of course they have to be financially viable, but council assets should have community benefit as their primary goal, income generation a secondary consideration. Pretty much how I see it. Of course Councils don’t have money, they simply redirect public money and public assets. Within that role they do have the opportunity to sell off public assets like land and in the process make money to pay for other public amenities. Redistribution of the public wealth if you like. They do have a duty to work for the betterment of the whole community and not just those with a vested interest let’s say in a local football club. The political argument to sell land used for local football in order to build homes is a strong one. People having somewhere to live trumps people having somewhere to kick a football. However in truth such a policy is likely to lose them votes and will be opposed, exactly what happened when acres of playing fields were sold for housing. So we get a balance and football clubs continue to survive, as do running clubs and all sorts of things. Quite right too. However, the reality is they the clubs are in effect being subsidised. The councils choosing to not realise the full asset value of that land used by the clubs. The council not spending money, simply not getting any to spend on other projects. |
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Post by watfordo on Feb 8, 2023 11:42:42 GMT
Dont they all dope to an extent?
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Post by Thor on Aug 13, 2024 8:05:42 GMT
Looks like the 115 charges they face will be heard next month with a decision by January. About time too.
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Post by mrb on Aug 13, 2024 8:27:52 GMT
If they were to be demoted two divisions, we could be playing them next season! Ain’t going to happen..They’ll find a way around it..Money is powerful!! |
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Post by mrb on Aug 13, 2024 8:28:17 GMT
Looks like the 115 charges they face will be heard next month with a decision by January. About time too. 3 points deduction 😂😂 |
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Post by billericayo on Aug 13, 2024 8:35:50 GMT
I think it is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. It is, however, the end of the beginning. Or something like that. To be or not to be that is the  |
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Post by arrgee on Aug 13, 2024 9:55:23 GMT
If they were to be demoted two divisions, we could be playing them next season! Not if Os are in Championship :-) (or league 2 :-( ) |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 13, 2024 16:23:58 GMT
I fancy a trip the Man City next season. Probably won’t enjoy the drubbing but a weekend away in sunny Manchester would be nice. Even enjoyed trips to Salford.
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