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Post by arrgee on Nov 5, 2023 21:32:58 GMT
I suspect I might get a lot of agreement here, but the FA Cup is far more interesting than the weekly soap opera of The Premier League. Arsenal have issued a statement on unacceptable VAR and refereeing errors. WTF? They lost a point because of it. One single point. And doubtless it will be the news until next weekend. They didn’t issue a stern statement on their defence switching off or their keeper flapping at a cross he should have dealt with. Had similar occurred on an Os away trip there would be no VAR. Maybe a few moans and groans, but that would be it.
Meanwhile in the cup that cheers, non-league Chesterfield dump 21st century cup winners Portsmouth to set up a tasty second round tie between the National League leaders and the League Two champions. Aldershot bag 7 against Swindon and Cray Valley (PM) draw at Charlton.
Premier League? Bag of s***e. I cancelled my Sky Sports subscription today.
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Post by buffalobill on Nov 6, 2023 9:58:51 GMT
Premiersh1t is mainly hype. It has concentrated money at the top, to the detriment of the rest of the pyramid. The main winners from this have been the top level players and their agents. Is the football better as a result?
Technically yes and that has meant that more gifted players who haven't made the grade have filtered down the system. which is a win for quality at our level. For me the biggest improvement has been in the quality of the pitches and we are lucky to be a beneficiary of that because of Spurs ladies.
The biggest loss for me is that it is harder and harder for a team to do a Wimbledon, or even a Nottingham Forest, unless they have major money behind them. The PL is killing competition, even amongst teams in that league. It encourages club owners to take crazy risks to get into the top flight and once there it is harder to stay up, if this season is anything to go by.
As for VAR, it is only as good as those making the decisions and whilst there are plenty of refereeing decisions at our level that I don't like, at least the game flows.
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Post by osoldest on Nov 6, 2023 10:47:17 GMT
How on earth could var not determine that ball was out of play.
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Post by dohnut on Nov 6, 2023 12:02:32 GMT
How on earth could var not determine that ball was out of play. My take is technology is there to assist. But on occasions it cannot, same as cricket. In those circumstances the referees decision is final. If the officials don’t think the ball is out of play and VAR does nothing to disprove it, then the officials view remain. |
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Post by kbola on Nov 6, 2023 15:58:43 GMT
Does anyone remember Captain Scarlett? Every time I see Mikael Arteta I think Captain Black voice of the Mysterons
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Post by redshank on Nov 6, 2023 16:08:51 GMT
The perfect way for Arsenal to lose,I just love it.
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Post by mrb on Nov 6, 2023 20:46:22 GMT
The perfect way for Arsenal to lose,I just love it. 😁 |
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Post by billericayo on Nov 6, 2023 21:45:30 GMT
How on earth could var not determine that ball was out of play. "cause it weren't" |
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Post by BasOfromthatLondon on Nov 6, 2023 22:41:50 GMT
Does anyone remember Captain Scarlett? Every time I see Mikael Arteta I think Captain Black voice of the Mysterons You never see Mikel and Mateo in the same room. OO |
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Post by theydonorient on Nov 7, 2023 7:30:25 GMT
How on earth could var not determine that ball was out of play. My take is technology is there to assist. But on occasions it cannot, same as cricket. In those circumstances the referees decision is final. If the officials don’t think the ball is out of play and VAR does nothing to disprove it, then the officials view remain. I think its down to a distance thing, tennis with its smaller play area and Hawkeye is spot on if the ball is in or out by a millimetre. The US open has even done away with line judges and just has the umpire as it’s so accurate. However to be as accurate as tennis with the length and breadth of a football pitch is virtually impossible. |
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Post by BasOfromthatLondon on Nov 7, 2023 10:38:00 GMT
They could have very thin sensors sticking up from the grass like this >. I. I. I.. I ...I. I.. I
They would be just under a ball width apart and running parallel to the lines, and a ball width away from the line.
If the ball touches the sensors then the ball is completely over the line. The ref/Linesman gets an alert on his/her watch.
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Post by arrgee on Nov 7, 2023 12:28:26 GMT
My take is technology is there to assist. But on occasions it cannot, same as cricket. In those circumstances the referees decision is final. If the officials don’t think the ball is out of play and VAR does nothing to disprove it, then the officials view remain. I think its down to a distance thing, tennis with its smaller play area and Hawkeye is spot on if the ball is in or out by a millimetre. The US open has even done away with line judges and just has the umpire as it’s so accurate. However to be as accurate as tennis with the length and breadth of a football pitch is virtually impossible. It could be done as they have Hawkeye at GAA for balls travelling over 70 yards between the posts. However, issues around touch lines and goal lines are a rare occurrence in football, even the goal decision system is rarely used, whereas in tennis every shot needs to be tracked. It wouldn’t have been an issue had Raya done his job as a keeper properly and either claimed the cross or stood on his line. Coming out, flapping and missing is pretty poor at that level. |
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