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Post by blip the thrOttle on Jan 17, 2024 21:17:14 GMT
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Post by dohnut on Jan 17, 2024 21:25:13 GMT
Not just premier league supporters. I really enjoy watching my local Wessex league teams when the opportunity arises. In addition pop to Eastleigh and Yeovil if the fancy takes me. Just love the game. Brisbane Road or the local rec. Doubt I’m alone in my love for the game itself, following one club don’t change that.
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Post by mrb on Jan 17, 2024 21:28:00 GMT
I’m just pleased we got out of the National League when we did for this exact reason..
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Post by mrb on Jan 17, 2024 21:31:29 GMT
Not just premier league supporters. I really enjoy watching my local Wessex league teams when the opportunity arises. In addition pop to Eastleigh and Yeovil if the fancy takes me. Just love the game. Brisbane Road or the local rec. Doubt I’m alone in my love for the game itself, following one club don’t change that. I’ve watched Tunbridge Wells attendance go from one man and his dog,to an average 4/500 in the last few years..
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Post by dohnut on Jan 17, 2024 21:52:13 GMT
I’m just pleased we got of the National League when we did for this exact reason.. Could not agree more. I love the game at all levels, including watching kids play, but watching Orient in the National League was something I found painful. It was nice being a big fish in a small pond at times, just, but having watched us play Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester Utd etc in league games my enthusiasm for some games just wasn’t there. being there when we won the NL remains one of the highlights of my Orient supporting life. Will admit to the odd tear in my eyes. I have a photo of that moment in my study. And of course my affection for JE will last for the rest of my life.
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Post by Thor on Jan 18, 2024 8:24:37 GMT
See I really enjoyed being in the National League. We got to see the other side of football life, we got to go to New grounds, meet new supporters all sharing the same thing the love of their club.
It was also the re-birth of our club. We have not looked back since. We have alot to be thankful for right now.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 18, 2024 10:23:17 GMT
See I really enjoyed being in the National League. We got to see the other side of football life, we got to go to New grounds, meet new supporters all sharing the same thing the love of their club. It was also the re-birth of our club. We have not looked back since. We have alot to be thankful for right now. I think you are right about it bringing about the rebirth of the club and we are in a much better place today because of it. But it seems to me to be saying Becchetti in his way was responsible for our rebirth because without him nearly killing us off the new owners would not have come along. I wouldn’t want any even indirect credit going in his direction. Botton line really being I’ve enjoyed seeing us as Champions twice in recent years so whatever s..t we went through was worth it in the end. I’m happy in league 1.
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Post by osoldguy on Jan 18, 2024 10:58:55 GMT
See I really enjoyed being in the National League. We got to see the other side of football life, we got to go to New grounds, meet new supporters all sharing the same thing the love of their club. It was also the re-birth of our club. We have not looked back since. We have alot to be thankful for right now. I think you are right about it bringing about the rebirth of the club and we are in a much better place today because of it. But it seems to me to be saying Becchetti in his way was responsible for our rebirth because without him nearly killing us off the new owners would not have come along. I wouldn’t want any even indirect credit going in his direction. Botton line really being I’ve enjoyed seeing us as Champions twice in recent years so whatever s..t we went through was worth it in the end. I’m happy in league 1. The life of a non league semi pro can be in stark contrast to a full time pro. Not the luxury of attending training at the crack of 10.00 hrs, but after a days work sometimes in outdoor environments, working in sub zero temperatures. Then attending evening training at least twice a week. I new a player that was a roofer. He said it was demanding in away games that required travelling some distance. Getting off work and getting to the game. Once finished getting home, catching a few hours sleep then getting up at 0500hrs to get to work. This in the days when latchway safety systems working at height were not in place.
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Post by redshank on Jan 18, 2024 12:45:48 GMT
I have always supported Non League football but not in recent years due to so many club closures.I also enjoyed our stint in the NL seeing those clubs I watched on freezing winter nights.Delighted when we left it behind as champions.I mostly watch NL on a Saturday when I get home from the O's,helps relax before tea. ILFORD,LEYTONSTONE WALTHAMSTOW AVENUE,GONE DEAD BURIED.+ many more.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 18, 2024 14:00:26 GMT
I think you are right about it bringing about the rebirth of the club and we are in a much better place today because of it. But it seems to me to be saying Becchetti in his way was responsible for our rebirth because without him nearly killing us off the new owners would not have come along. I wouldn’t want any even indirect credit going in his direction. Botton line really being I’ve enjoyed seeing us as Champions twice in recent years so whatever s..t we went through was worth it in the end. I’m happy in league 1. The life of a non league semi pro can be in stark contrast to a full time pro. Not the luxury of attending training at the crack of 10.00 hrs, but after a days work sometimes in outdoor environments, working in sub zero temperatures. Then attending evening training at least twice a week. I knew a player that was a roofer. He said it was demanding in away games that required travelling some distance. Getting off work and getting to the game. Once finished getting home, catching a few hours sleep then getting up at 0500hrs to get to work. This in the days when latchway safety systems working at height were not in place. Life is difficult for many non-league semi-pro players as you say. Combining jobs with playing has got to be tough. The dream being I guess getting a full professional contract. Which of course happens. Don’t know what it’s like these days, anyone wish to say, but at one time it was tough and often with little reward. I guess that background makes me less tolerant of today’s professionals playing weekly without a break or shock horror playing twice a week and complaining. Fatigue, pressure and so on. They need to open their eyes to the pressures of others out there. They have it pretty good in my opinion. Paid well for doing a job they love whilst being well looked after and plenty of time off. End of rant.
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Post by Thor on Jan 18, 2024 14:41:12 GMT
You very rarely if at all ever hear of a player moaning about playing 2 games a week. The manager will and does.
Different presssures for different reasons, one of them will lose their jobs for under performance and the other keeps on getting paid.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 18, 2024 15:04:10 GMT
You very rarely if at all ever hear of a player moaning about playing 2 games a week. The manager will and does. Different presssures for different reasons, one of them will lose their jobs for under performance and the other keeps on getting paid. Fair point about the manager. And it’s something that irritates me immensely when used as an excuse. But the job loss aspect is something many people have to contend with in many industries. From the low paid high street workers suffering shop closures to better off who suffer closures, downsizing mergers, takeovers or reorganisation. Etc. Call it what you like, people losing their jobs and sometimes no fault of their own. And of course poor performing employees. Seen a belly full of it during my career and I doubt I am alone. Footballers are not unique, the pressures they face no tougher than many they are judged on their ability like so many others. However, whilst they are trying to build their career they get looked after even if it’s because their employer see a revenue potential. They don’t have it too bad in the great scheme of things. Just seen a newsflash, Tata closing Port Talbot Steel works. 3000 jobs gone and no doubt the ripples from that will affect thousands more in the community. That is tough. A community will be destroyed. People whinging about two games a week need to wake up and get on with their job. Including RW.
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Post by osoldguy on Jan 18, 2024 16:15:12 GMT
You very rarely if at all ever hear of a player moaning about playing 2 games a week. The manager will and does. Different presssures for different reasons, one of them will lose their jobs for under performance and the other keeps on getting paid. Fair point about the manager. And it’s something that irritates me immensely when used as an excuse. But the job loss aspect is something many people have to contend with in many industries. From the low paid high street workers suffering shop closures to better off who suffer closures, downsizing mergers, takeovers or reorganisation. Etc. Call it what you like, people losing their jobs and sometimes no fault of their own. And of course poor performing employees. Seen a belly full of it during my career and I doubt I am alone. Footballers are not unique, the pressures they face no tougher than many they are judged on their ability like so many others. However, whilst they are trying to build their career they get looked after even if it’s because their employer see a revenue potential. They don’t have it too bad in the great scheme of things. Just seen a newsflash, Tata closing Port Talbot Steel works. 3000 jobs gone and no doubt the ripples from that will affect thousands more in the community. That is tough. A community will be destroyed. People whinging about two games a week need to wake up and get on with their job. Including RW. Good point about Port Talbot and 3000 losing their jobs and all the subsidiary industry that are suppliers. Would be interesting to see if our European competitors would allow this to happen. IMO we have sold the countries silver to private enterprise this includes Steel making, car manufacture, water, gas and electrical infrastructure. The French own most our electrical network and water. The UK Govt made a big play about reducing Chinese involvement in the economy. What is a joke is that the Chinese are Building Nuclear Power plants in the UK. They own UK power networks (UKPN). The local councils that I have worked in recently were using Huawei hardware for their IT systems.
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Post by dohnut on Jan 18, 2024 16:35:04 GMT
Fair point about the manager. And it’s something that irritates me immensely when used as an excuse. But the job loss aspect is something many people have to contend with in many industries. From the low paid high street workers suffering shop closures to better off who suffer closures, downsizing mergers, takeovers or reorganisation. Etc. Call it what you like, people losing their jobs and sometimes no fault of their own. And of course poor performing employees. Seen a belly full of it during my career and I doubt I am alone. Footballers are not unique, the pressures they face no tougher than many they are judged on their ability like so many others. However, whilst they are trying to build their career they get looked after even if it’s because their employer see a revenue potential. They don’t have it too bad in the great scheme of things. Just seen a newsflash, Tata closing Port Talbot Steel works. 3000 jobs gone and no doubt the ripples from that will affect thousands more in the community. That is tough. A community will be destroyed. People whinging about two games a week need to wake up and get on with their job. Including RW. Good point about Port Talbot and 3000 losing their jobs and all the subsidiary industry that are suppliers. Would be interesting to see if our European competitors would allow this to happen. IMO we have sold the countries silver to private enterprise this includes Steel making, car manufacture, water, gas and electrical infrastructure. The French own most our electrical network and water. The UK Govt made a big play about reducing Chinese involvement in the economy. What is a joke is that the Chinese are Building Nuclear Power plants in the UK. They own UK power networks (UKPN). The local councils that I have worked in recently were using Huawei hardware for their IT systems. Have to say I agree with much of what you say.
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