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Post by eca on Apr 13, 2024 2:04:50 GMT
Roy Wood was in ELO when this song was composed- I assume he may of contributed as the producer but Jeff Lyne is credited as the songwriter for it
It’s a fantastic song Roy is really totally underestimated in musical ability - The Move songs are also exceptional
I read somewhere he lives in Derbyshire - he is very distinctive in his appearance - if anyone gets to speak to him pre or post Derby game on their travels please tell him he is greatly admired for his musical songwriting ability.
He is also very talented playing a wide range of instruments.
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Post by redshank on Apr 13, 2024 10:51:25 GMT
Roy Wood certainly knew how to entertain.
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Post by alfresco on Apr 13, 2024 11:08:58 GMT
Both Roy Wood & Jeff Lynn are massive talents.
Jeff Lynn has had an amazing career spanning 6 decades of amazing hits with fantastic music.
He is so underrated IMO.
I rate him in second place to Paul McCartney in the genius league.
I have many ELO records in vinyl from when they were originally released, as well as many CD's from the 80's & 90's
Great stuff
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Post by dohnut on Apr 13, 2024 12:40:38 GMT
Seen ELO in concert many times and play their music to this day. Seen the current reincarnation a couple of times. McCartney is not one of my favourites. Right place, right time with many very simple catchy songs. But can’t knock their success.
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Post by redshank on Apr 13, 2024 13:47:27 GMT
Agree with you about McCartney,some good songs but thin voice.
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 13, 2024 23:19:39 GMT
Agree with you about McCartney,some good songs but thin voice. Have a listen to ‘Maybe I’m amazed’ and you might change your mind about NcCartney’s singing ability. |
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Post by eca on Apr 13, 2024 23:32:01 GMT
Don’t forget about Ray Davies some of his songs are equal or exceed the musical quality of the Beatles
Waterloo Sunset
Lola
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Post by dohnut on Apr 14, 2024 7:32:58 GMT
Kinks, one of my favourites at that time.
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Post by dohnut on Apr 14, 2024 7:42:49 GMT
Agree with you about McCartney,some good songs but thin voice. Have a listen to ‘Maybe I’m amazed’ and you might change your mind about NcCartney’s singing ability. Thing is, and just my opinion and definitely not knocking him or their success which is beyond question, success and good vocals don’t need to co-exist. Jagger has a modest voice too but one of my favourites. But even those with average voices hit on a few songs that suit their limited range. Outside that they just get by. I’ve seen lots of singers live and take away the technology and backing music/singers and truth be told have modest voices. Even with all that sometimes when singing live, limitations shine through. Yet some have really great voices, Mercury, Adele, Elvis and so on. But great voices ain’t a pre-requisite for success. As the Beatles and Stones prove. |
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Post by redshank on Apr 14, 2024 9:43:43 GMT
Don’t forget about Ray Davies some of his songs are equal or exceed the musical quality of the Beatles Waterloo Sunset Lola A great group and great songs.When did groups become bands,bands has an air of snobbery.It is when they lost contact with the fans. |
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Post by dohnut on Apr 14, 2024 18:08:04 GMT
Don’t forget about Ray Davies some of his songs are equal or exceed the musical quality of the Beatles Waterloo Sunset Lola A great group and great songs.When did groups become bands,bands has an air of snobbery.It is when they lost contact with the fans. The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band were around in the 60s so the term has run in parallel to Groups as far back as I can remember. I would have thought the term Band has been around longer than Group, or at least as long. Perhaps. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2024 7:23:16 GMT
Ah yes, popular musicians lost touch with their fans and it was all The Band's fault.
Back then fans were already longing for the halcyon days of doing the Lindyhop to Big Group music and the Gershwins' Strike Up The Group.
Did pop music even lose touch with its fans at all? Or was it just fans of a certain age losing touch with pop music?
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Post by redshank on Apr 15, 2024 11:02:05 GMT
A great group and great songs.When did groups become bands,bands has an air of snobbery.It is when they lost contact with the fans. The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band were around in the 60s so the term has run in parallel to Groups as far back as I can remember. I would have thought the term Band has been around longer than Group, or at least as long. Perhaps. Neil Innes I believe was a member of Bonzo Dog,now he was a true songwriting talent,even had his own show,Called the Neil Innes book of records.Always a must for me. |
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 15, 2024 13:29:22 GMT
Music is never just about the quality of the vocalist.
Like a football team, a good band can be more than the sun of the parts.
The Beatles lead the way for singer/songwriters and you can only judge their music against their peers.
What the Beatles were, was a totally professional outfit, who worked hard for their success. Even so, luck and being in the right place at the right time is a big part of any bands success.
For me Lee Brillo and Dr Feelgood were the most exciting band I ever saw live. Just loved their raw power.
And that’s it, each of us has a favourite and no choice is a bad choice, just what you like personally.
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Post by harrycat on Apr 15, 2024 14:47:30 GMT
Who remembers the skiffle groups playing in Coronation Gardens? Joe Brown and the brothers used to practice in a newsagents in Leyton. Francis Road
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Post by redshank on Apr 15, 2024 15:06:41 GMT
I wrote many songs years ago,always thought that was my future,that phase soon passed,but still liked the local scene at the Wake Arms and The Red Lion.Still sing my own songs now.
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Post by dohnut on Apr 15, 2024 17:30:18 GMT
Music is never just about the quality of the vocalist. Like a football team, a good band can be more than the sun of the parts. The Beatles lead the way for singer/songwriters and you can only judge their music against their peers. What the Beatles were, was a totally professional outfit, who worked hard for their success. Even so, luck and being in the right place at the right time is a big part of any bands success. For me Lee Brillo and Dr Feelgood were the most exciting band I ever saw live. Just loved their raw power. And that’s it, each of us has a favourite and no choice is a bad choice, just what you like personally. I agree. Many great bands have modest vocalists and I include the Stones and Beatles in that category. Being in the right place at the right time is spot on. But that’s life in general. Good luck to them. They need talent to take advantage of the opportunities when they come along. Have seen many bands live and been surprised how poor vocally some are compared to their published music. But on the other hand saw Elton John in concert years ago. Not a great vocalist but wow, what a great entertainer, who cares if he is not a great singer. Sometimes that’s not what matters. |
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Post by Fisch on Apr 15, 2024 23:12:29 GMT
Anyone can be a vocalist now, with automatic pitch correction, auto double tracking, harmonisers, timbre enhancers and voice compression plus various reverbs, delay, Freq modulation, even de-harmonisers and pitch shifters, notch filters, graphic EQ, stereo panning, auto remixers, octavers...
All that stuff has moved audio even further way from reality than Photoshop has done for imagery.
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Post by dohnut on Apr 16, 2024 5:40:37 GMT
Anyone can be a vocalist now, with automatic pitch correction, auto double tracking, harmonisers, timbre enhancers and voice compression plus various reverbs, delay, Freq modulation, even de-harmonisers and pitch shifters, notch filters, graphic EQ, stereo panning, auto remixers, octavers... All that stuff has moved audio even further way from reality than Photoshop has done for imagery. I don’t understand what all that vocal stuff is or does but it sounds impressive. Mind you I like photoshop. |
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Post by Thor on Apr 16, 2024 5:43:45 GMT
Anyone can be a vocalist now, with automatic pitch correction, auto double tracking, harmonisers, timbre enhancers and voice compression plus various reverbs, delay, Freq modulation, even de-harmonisers and pitch shifters, notch filters, graphic EQ, stereo panning, auto remixers, octavers... All that stuff has moved audio even further way from reality than Photoshop has done for imagery. so there's hope.for us all yet!! |
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