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Post by redintheface on Apr 18, 2024 11:31:11 GMT
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Post by redshank on Apr 18, 2024 11:38:08 GMT
Of course it is insulting,the FA seem to let the PL walk all over them,them includes all outside the PL.A once treasured competition left floundering in its own wake.The only football pyramid competition that kicks off in August all hoping for a third round place. |
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Post by Ramrod on Apr 18, 2024 11:42:53 GMT
At least we will be free from all those annoying replays that regularly disrupt our league performances.
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Post by redshank on Apr 18, 2024 11:52:37 GMT
At least we will be free from all those annoying replays that regularly disrupt our league performances. Agree in part,but a good third round draw away to a London Club would bring in some much needed money.Exeter City survived and was revived by FA CUP MONEY. |
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Post by SW O on Apr 18, 2024 12:06:45 GMT
I don't suppose they're increasing the prize money as a consequence?
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Post by redshank on Apr 18, 2024 13:29:23 GMT
I don't suppose they're increasing the prize money as a consequence? Good idea,it should be doubled for all teams that are not in the PL. |
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Post by dohnut on Apr 18, 2024 13:35:21 GMT
At least we will be free from all those annoying replays that regularly disrupt our league performances. And less minutes for the players to wear themselves out. So not all bad. |
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Post by arrgee on Apr 18, 2024 13:52:33 GMT
Yet I suppose there will still be two legged League Cup semi finals. I wonder if ties will go to penalties after 90 minutes like they do in League Cup. I much preferred having replays u til the outcome was decided. Winning matches and trophies by defending well and scoring penalties is not what football should be about. |
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Post by mujtahido on Apr 18, 2024 14:59:18 GMT
I think it's a fairly good idea and if a small club can get a draw against a big team then they will have an evens chance of winning the penalty shoot out
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Post by Ramrod on Apr 18, 2024 15:34:01 GMT
At least we will be free from all those annoying replays that regularly disrupt our league performances. Agree in part,but a good third round draw away to a London Club would bring in some much needed money.Exeter City survived and was revived by FA CUP MONEY. I didn't think anyone would take this seriously. |
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Post by MungO on Apr 18, 2024 19:59:52 GMT
I have a friend that has always suggested that FA Cup ties should be just one game, extra time and penalties if needed.
But..
Whoever the lowest ranking team in the tie is get to choose whether to play it at home or away.
So if Nunhead drew the O's they'd have the choice of playing home or away.
I think the above is a fair compromise.
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Post by vinnyh on Apr 18, 2024 21:06:59 GMT
I have a friend that has always suggested that FA Cup ties should be just one game, extra time and penalties if needed. But.. Whoever the lowest ranking team in the tie is get to choose whether to play it at home or away. So if Nunhead drew the O's they'd have the choice of playing home or away. I think the above is a fair compromise. Me too. Used to be allowed didn't it but the FA put a stop to it, probably due to some mumbo jumbo about ruining the cups integrity. The reality is that for a lot of clubs it's just a way of generating extra revenue, with the hope of going as far as possible with the hope of a giant killing along the way. The FA need to let the smaller clubs decide so that they can make as much money as possible. |
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Post by blip the thrOttle on Apr 18, 2024 22:13:53 GMT
‘Strengthening the competition’ - yep, keep telling yourselves that. If the PL and FA were being really honest with themselves, they would bin the competition altogether as they clearly regard it as an inconvenience and a barrier to the big clubs (who are their major assets) being successful in Europe. Time we realised that those of us who don’t support big Premier League clubs are basically just getting in the way of the brand.
It's a complete, total and utter travesty!
Some of the best F.A. Cup games in history have been replays!
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Post by vinnyh on Apr 19, 2024 5:58:08 GMT
‘Strengthening the competition’ - yep, keep telling yourselves that. If the PL and FA were being really honest with themselves, they would bin the competition altogether as they clearly regard it as an inconvenience and a barrier to the big clubs (who are their major assets) being successful in Europe. Time we realised that those of us who don’t support big Premier League clubs are basically just getting in the way of the brand. It's a complete, total and utter travesty! Some of the best F.A. Cup games in history have been replays! As you rightly say, some of the best games have the replays. But I do wonder if that's because the game needed to be ended on the night and neither team wanted extra time or penalties. With the replay gone, my hope is that we'll see better games, clubs will put out stronger sides and fans will return. |
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Post by redintheface on Apr 19, 2024 6:01:51 GMT
‘Strengthening the competition’ - yep, keep telling yourselves that. If the PL and FA were being really honest with themselves, they would bin the competition altogether as they clearly regard it as an inconvenience and a barrier to the big clubs (who are their major assets) being successful in Europe. Time we realised that those of us who don’t support big Premier League clubs are basically just getting in the way of the brand. It's a complete, total and utter travesty! Some of the best F.A. Cup games in history have been replays! As you rightly say, some of the best games have the replays. But I do wonder if that's because the game needed to be ended on the night and neither team wanted extra time or penalties. With the replay gone, my hope is that we'll see better games, clubs will put out stronger sides and fans will return. With the status of the competition being diminished from within , Premiership teams with squads of 35/40 players and “ rotation “ I fear that is a forlorn hope vinny! |
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Post by ramblingman on Apr 19, 2024 7:37:03 GMT
I can't say I'm too bothered but if the reason is European competition, then why introduce this from the First Round? That's an insincere explanation.
A lot of lower league clubs are incensed by this so we have to assume that it has an impact. From where I sit, the FA Cup seems to have been declining for some years. The competition has lost some of its magic and gates are down. Premier teams don't play their first choices but the top sides still seem to get to the final year after year.
Do the replays make that much difference? It depends. If we had gone to extra time and penalties at Brissie with Arsenal instead of the replay at the Emirates we would very likely still have lost but it might have been more exciting. As it was the replay was a non-event. If we had drawn the game against Carlisle in this year's first round would be really have wanted a midweek trip to Cumbria?
Maybe the answer is to give the lower league clubs a bigger share of the gate if they are drawn against a Prem side, home or away, which would be some compensation for missing the chance of a replay.
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Post by arrgee on Apr 19, 2024 11:12:48 GMT
Do the replays make that much difference? It depends. If we had gone to extra time and penalties at Brissie with Arsenal instead of the replay at the Emirates we would very likely still have lost but it might have been more exciting. As it was the replay was a non-event. If we had drawn the game against Carlisle in this year's first round would be really have wanted a midweek trip to Cumbria? Yes, a massive difference of about £2 million. www.leytonorient.com/news/2024/april/19/club-statement---fa-cup-/The revenue the club generated from its FA Cup run in 2011, which concluded with a replay at Arsenal, made the club almost £2m |
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Post by watfordo on Apr 19, 2024 12:15:29 GMT
Honestly, Im ok with it.
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Post by vinnyh on Apr 19, 2024 12:56:53 GMT
So it's now turning out that The FA had been discussing this with the PL and EFL for well over a year (according to the statement from the FA), but the EFL didn't ever think that they should consult with their member clubs!
Probably knew that it wouldn't go down well so kept if from the clubs.
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Post by vinnyh on Apr 19, 2024 13:07:54 GMT
So it's now turning out that The FA had been discussing this with the PL and EFL for well over a year (according to the statement from the FA), but the EFL didn't ever think that they should consult with their member clubs! Probably knew that it wouldn't go down well so kept if from the clubs. So now the EFL are saying that they weren't consulted. www.efl.com/news/2024/april/19/efl-statement--fa-cup-replays/ |
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