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Post by redshank on Apr 21, 2024 10:48:42 GMT
I know we all have a biased pop at the officials during the match,but as a whole do you think the officials did a good job this season. I gave up on some decisions and just left it to the refs,as I did not know how any incident would turn out and was baffled at some of the decisions.I try not complain after the match as it is truly a difficult job.As a mark out of 10 I would give 6.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 12:38:10 GMT
Definitely better than League 2. Obviously refs are always gonna make the odd error, but I don't remember too many absolute stinkers.
Thought the ref yesterday was good. Kept the game flowing in spite of the efforts of both teams.
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Post by kbola on Apr 21, 2024 16:37:26 GMT
I don't know about that but Nottingham Forest have released an extraordinary statement after their defeat at Everton claiming they were denied three clear penalties, there is a conspiracy against them and the VAR ref is a Luton fan!
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Post by Thor on Apr 21, 2024 17:30:22 GMT
By and large they have been decent. The ref yesterday I thought was too lenient both ways. Some have been really bad, but most have been good.
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Post by dohnut on Apr 22, 2024 13:01:18 GMT
Out of interest I did an online referee quiz last week. Testing my knowledge of the laws of the game. Now as someone who learnt the laws and had to pass tests in a past life to become a lower game referee and who still reads them today, I assumed I would do OK.
I was crap! No softer way of saying it. Garbage. Circa 70% and that included some guesswork.
So whilst some decisions I find confusing and in all honesty don’t agree with (bias shows it’s ugly head) I’m accepting of the fact that referees understand the laws of the game a bloody site better than me, than most of us is my guess, and have plied their trade through the ranks to achieve EFL status, I’m reluctant to be over-critical and accepting of the fact they are human beings officiating a game where players and managers try to ‘apply unfair influence’ and get things wrong at times.
To be an EFL referee they have to be good and of course accountable for their mistakes.
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Post by redshank on Apr 22, 2024 13:09:41 GMT
I don't think they should be made accountable for a mistake,the job is too difficult for that and footballers are too crafty and milk any situation.All part of the modern matchday experience.
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Post by dohnut on Apr 22, 2024 13:17:17 GMT
I don't think they should be made accountable for a mistake,the job is too difficult for that and footballers are too crafty and milk any situation.All part of the modern matchday experience. They must be held accountable. Being held accountable doesn’t mean they get a rocket or lose their job. In fact it can also show they were correct. But if they have made mistakes they need to learn from them. Continually improving is important. Perfection will never be achieved but it’s a great goal to have.
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Post by Thor on Apr 22, 2024 18:21:48 GMT
One way to improve the quality of refs is to pay ex players proper money to take up the role, as they know the game inside out, the tricks and faints etc.
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Post by dohnut on Apr 22, 2024 20:06:26 GMT
One way to improve the quality of refs is to pay ex players proper money to take up the role, as they know the game inside out, the tricks and faints etc. Nothing stopping ex players from doing that. But the money needs to be right.
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Post by Timmo on Apr 23, 2024 12:36:41 GMT
One of the best refs I have seen was Steve Baines who was an ex pro with Northampton I think. He let the game flow as much as possible and spoke to the players on equal terms. I don't think he reffed for very long though, perhaps someone could verify how long he did it for.
Maybe one reason we don't get more ex pros doing it is the fact that once a player has retired the main thing he looks forward to is putting his feet up for a bit. Refs have to be fit these days and cover a lot of ground, more than some of the players do. As many ex pros are carrying some kind of nagging injury from their playing days they probably just don't fancy it and I can understand why.
P.S It was Chesterfield, among others, that he played for and he reffed for 8 years!
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Post by redshank on Apr 24, 2024 10:20:50 GMT
I don't think they should be made accountable for a mistake,the job is too difficult for that and footballers are too crafty and milk any situation.All part of the modern matchday experience. They must be held accountable. Being held accountable doesn’t mean they get a rocket or lose their job. In fact it can also show they were correct. But if they have made mistakes they need to learn from them. Continually improving is important. Perfection will never be achieved but it’s a great goal to have. A bad mistake can lead to a reputation for a ref.I know some I don't like and often dread the smaller refs,But when the ref is good it often makes for a much better match as the players do not mess with good refs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2024 18:37:45 GMT
I was crap! No softer way of saying it. Garbage. Circa 70% and that included some guesswork. I know you didn't mean to but you just crapped on every test and exam I've ever taken.
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Post by confucius on Apr 25, 2024 6:46:31 GMT
Out of interest I did an online referee quiz last week. Testing my knowledge of the laws of the game. Now as someone who learnt the laws and had to pass tests in a past life to become a lower game referee and who still reads them today, I assumed I would do OK. I was crap! No softer way of saying it. Garbage. Circa 70% and that included some guesswork. So whilst some decisions I find confusing and in all honesty don’t agree with (bias shows it’s ugly head) I’m accepting of the fact that referees understand the laws of the game a bloody site better than me, than most of us is my guess, and have plied their trade through the ranks to achieve EFL status, I’m reluctant to be over-critical and accepting of the fact they are human beings officiating a game where players and managers try to ‘apply unfair influence’ and get things wrong at times. To be an EFL referee they have to be good and of course accountable for their mistakes. Confucius say: ‘Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know.’
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