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Post by sixtiesman on Aug 11, 2024 10:50:39 GMT
Sol Bryn did that a few times last Season. Maybe that was in Lesson 2 and they neve attended.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 10:52:17 GMT
I didn't rate Sol highly at all but he never had a game that bad.
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 11, 2024 11:24:49 GMT
I didn't rate Sol highly at all but he never had a game that bad. Os have had plenty of time to sign a competent first team keeper since Lawrence Vigouroux left the club and instead have opted for two indifferent loan keepers two seasons in a row.
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Post by redintheface on Aug 11, 2024 11:28:56 GMT
Personally I thought Brynn was quite competent last season.
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Post by osoldguy on Aug 11, 2024 12:13:57 GMT
I didn't rate Sol highly at all but he never had a game that bad. Os have had plenty of time to sign a competent first team keeper since Lawrence Vigouroux left the club and instead have opted for two indifferent loan keepers two seasons in a row.
One of the local non league clubs near me play in Tier 7 of the Pyramid. It was suggested to me that their Semi professional Goalkeeper was on £800 per week. If O's are not prepared to pay the extortioniate wages a Div1 caibre keeper that i guess is probably demanding, then they go down the loan route where the players wages are probably split between Parent and loan club. It must be tough out there competing against the Champagne Charlies of Div1. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 11, 2024 12:26:29 GMT
Personally I thought Brynn was quite competent last season. I thought that on average Brynn was a good shot stopper but rather indifferent when it came to dealing with crosses coming into the box, still that seems a feature of many of the lower EFL keepers, years ago keepers seemed to deal better with crosses into the box than nowadays, oh for a modern day John Jackson ! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 12:43:04 GMT
Personally I thought Brynn was quite competent last season. "Quite competent" is what you want from your backup keeper, not your number 1. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 11, 2024 13:07:23 GMT
Personally I thought Brynn was quite competent last season. I thought that on average Brynn was a good shot stopper but rather indifferent when it came to dealing with crosses coming into the box, still that seems a feature of many of the lower EFL keepers, years ago keepers seemed to deal better with crosses into the box than nowadays, oh for a modern day John Jackson ! I didn’t have too many issues with Brynn. But Dub is right, competent is a better description for your backup. Yesterday the difference between the keepers was chalk and cheese. And 3 points and bugger all. I really hope that was a one-off but even before the second goal, there were posts muttering about his lacking and not just the first goal. All round poor. Surely to God having taken us so long to bring in a keeper we could have done better! Panic signing. The second goal confirmed our fears. Please let it be a blip! Coming out for crosses is a difficult one. So many players in the box and so much jostling. Can see why so many punch rather than catch. Oh for a modern day John Jackson. Right on. Michael Jackson would be a step up. |
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Post by osoldguy on Aug 11, 2024 13:30:37 GMT
I thought that on average Brynn was a good shot stopper but rather indifferent when it came to dealing with crosses coming into the box, still that seems a feature of many of the lower EFL keepers, years ago keepers seemed to deal better with crosses into the box than nowadays, oh for a modern day John Jackson ! I didn’t have too many issues with Brynn. But Dub is right, competent is a better description for your backup. Yesterday the difference between the keepers was chalk and cheese. And 3 points and bugger all. I really hope that was a one-off but even before the second goal, there were posts muttering about his lacking and not just the first goal. All round poor. Surely to God having taken us so long to bring in a keeper we could have done better! Panic signing. The second goal confirmed our fears. Please let it be a blip! Coming out for crosses is a difficult one. So many players in the box and so much jostling. Can see why so many punch rather than catch. Oh for a modern day John Jackson. Right on. Michael Jackson would be a step up. What a great keeper John Jackson was. Mervyn Day was much maligned in his day but I didnt think he was half bad, if he was available today at the age he was when he was at O's I bet they would have him in goal. |
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Post by redshank on Aug 11, 2024 13:51:20 GMT
He played well and used the ball well,but that dropping of the ball undid the good.Make that your worse display and all will be well.
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 11, 2024 14:01:54 GMT
I thought that on average Brynn was a good shot stopper but rather indifferent when it came to dealing with crosses coming into the box, still that seems a feature of many of the lower EFL keepers, years ago keepers seemed to deal better with crosses into the box than nowadays, oh for a modern day John Jackson ! I didn’t have too many issues with Brynn. But Dub is right, competent is a better description for your backup. Yesterday the difference between the keepers was chalk and cheese. And 3 points and bugger all. I really hope that was a one-off but even before the second goal, there were posts muttering about his lacking and not just the first goal. All round poor. Surely to God having taken us so long to bring in a keeper we could have done better! Panic signing. The second goal confirmed our fears. Please let it be a blip! Coming out for crosses is a difficult one. So many players in the box and so much jostling. Can see why so many punch rather than catch. Oh for a modern day John Jackson. Right on. Michael Jackson would be a step up. Well as I recall, for corners, free kicks etc, has always the case of a lot of players in the box putting Keepers under pressure but not so many rough tough centre forwards around now as in the past to deal with now. Gone are the days when centre forwards were allowed to charge goalkeepers into the back of the net when they already have hold of the ball, as was the case with old time centre forwards like Nat Lofthouse, Bobby Smith, Dixie Dean for example |
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 11, 2024 14:04:44 GMT
Personally I thought Brynn was quite competent last season. "Quite competent" is what you want from your backup keeper, not your number 1. Exactly, hit the nail on the head there |
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Post by osoldguy on Aug 11, 2024 14:09:19 GMT
I didn’t have too many issues with Brynn. But Dub is right, competent is a better description for your backup. Yesterday the difference between the keepers was chalk and cheese. And 3 points and bugger all. I really hope that was a one-off but even before the second goal, there were posts muttering about his lacking and not just the first goal. All round poor. Surely to God having taken us so long to bring in a keeper we could have done better! Panic signing. The second goal confirmed our fears. Please let it be a blip! Coming out for crosses is a difficult one. So many players in the box and so much jostling. Can see why so many punch rather than catch. Oh for a modern day John Jackson. Right on. Michael Jackson would be a step up. Well as I recall, for corners, free kicks etc, has always the case of a lot of players in the box putting Keepes under pressure but not so many rough tough centre forwards around now as in the past to deal with now. Gone are the days when centre forwards were allowed to charge goalkeepers into the net when they already have hold of the ball, as was the case with old time centre forwards like Nat Lofthouse, Bobby Smith, Dixie Dean for example I read somewhere Bobby Smith played in I think the 1963 cup final with a fractured ankle strapped up and pumped full of painkillers. He broke it a month before the game. He being an ex coalminer probably no big deal to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 14:10:43 GMT
Surely to God having taken us so long to bring in a keeper we could have done better! Panic signing. By all accounts he'd been on our radar since last season, came highly recommended, and we were told we were crossing the t's and dotting the i's on a keeper two weeks before he was announced. Some here, you included, didn't think we even needed to sign a keeper. So how was this a panic signing? |
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 11, 2024 14:16:51 GMT
I didn’t have too many issues with Brynn. But Dub is right, competent is a better description for your backup. Yesterday the difference between the keepers was chalk and cheese. And 3 points and bugger all. I really hope that was a one-off but even before the second goal, there were posts muttering about his lacking and not just the first goal. All round poor. Surely to God having taken us so long to bring in a keeper we could have done better! Panic signing. The second goal confirmed our fears. Please let it be a blip! Coming out for crosses is a difficult one. So many players in the box and so much jostling. Can see why so many punch rather than catch. Oh for a modern day John Jackson. Right on. Michael Jackson would be a step up. What a great keeper John Jackson was. Mervyn Day was much maligned in his day but I didnt think he was half bad, if he was available today at the age he was when he was at O's I bet they would have him in goal. ''Mervyn Day was much maligned in his day but I didnt think he was half bad, if he was available today at the age he was when he was at O's I bet they would have him in goal'' If only we did have that era Mervyn Day in the Os squad. Came from the Hammers to Os in 1979 for a £100,000 transfer fee and and played 170 games for the Os. Later on he spent 8 seasons at Leeds Utd playing 227 games. So sad that in those long ago times Os had the money to buy some really good players and now 40 plus year on, we have to get by mainly on free transfers and loan players.
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Post by redintheface on Aug 11, 2024 14:20:26 GMT
Personally I thought Brynn was quite competent last season. "Quite competent" is what you want from your backup keeper, not your number 1. I would happily have settled for “ quite competent” from our No1 yesterday, as I suspect many others on here would.👍 |
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Post by MungO on Aug 11, 2024 15:31:30 GMT
I don't feel anybody should be judged after one game.
Remember when the consensus was that Pratley's knees had gone and he was past it when Jackett was here..
Give the lad a chance.
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Post by osoldest on Aug 11, 2024 16:41:17 GMT
John Jackson was our best ever keeper, but Mervyn day was among the worse keepers ever to play for the orient , that said he wasn’t as bad as yesterdays.
He literally gifted them 2 goals and the number of times he fumbled the ball could have been more.
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 11, 2024 17:19:11 GMT
John Jackson was our best ever keeper, but Mervyn day was among the worse keepers ever to play for the orient , that said he wasn’t as bad as yesterdays. He literally gifted them 2 goals and the number of times he fumbled the ball could have been more. Well he was good enough to be an ever present for Os over 3 seasons, cost Os £100,000 and after 3 seasons went to Villa than had a long career at Leeds United, so he must have had something going for him. |
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Post by mujtahido on Aug 11, 2024 17:21:01 GMT
John Jackson was our best ever keeper, but Mervyn day was among the worse keepers ever to play for the orient , that said he wasn’t as bad as yesterdays. He literally gifted them 2 goals and the number of times he fumbled the ball could have been more. Jackson was indeed our best ever goalkeeper but i remember him literally throwing the ball into his own net against hull city i believe in the final game of theseason when we needed a draw to stay up.Lets give the new boy s few games before totally writing him off |
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