|
|
Post by dohnut on Aug 12, 2024 10:55:41 GMT
A killer, 6 people rampage, was diagnosed by his doctor of being a risk 3 years ago. The should have done more arguments now occur
The question. Should the law be able to imprison including mental hospital, someone on the basis of what a doctor thinks they may do?
Is that right or a dangerous path to go down. I’m not convinced locking someone up based on what they may do is right
Any thoughts
?
|
|
|
|
Post by redshank on Aug 12, 2024 11:02:16 GMT
Difficult one I agree,but it happens far too often.
Also sad to see that Graham Thorpe took his own life due to depression.Suffer the black dog myself so understand the condition.
|
|
|
|
Post by dohnut on Aug 12, 2024 11:52:00 GMT
Difficult one I agree,but it happens far too often. Also sad to see that Graham Thorpe took his own life due to depression.Suffer the black dog myself so understand the condition. Didn’t realise about Thorpe, tragic. I too am a sufferer and understand only too well what he may have gone through. Depression is evil. And irrational. as to detaining those considered a risk to others, police can’t do anything until a crime is committed despite evidence to suggest it is likely. Same for medics, they may feel the risk exists but are powerless in general to prevent. What seems to have happened in this case is a lack of coordination between medical professionals and a lack of communication with family. But this is easier said than done when dealing with 100s, maybe 1000s of cases that don’t result in tragedy. No consolation for the victims and their families. |
|
|
|
Post by dennisrofe on Aug 12, 2024 12:03:09 GMT
Difficult one I agree,but it happens far too often. Also sad to see that Graham Thorpe took his own life due to depression.Suffer the black dog myself so understand the condition. Sir Winston Churchill also suffered from the ''Black Dog'' depression. |
|
|
|
Post by dennisrofe on Aug 12, 2024 12:08:18 GMT
Difficult one I agree,but it happens far too often. Also sad to see that Graham Thorpe took his own life due to depression.Suffer the black dog myself so understand the condition. Didn’t realise about Thorpe, tragic. I too am a sufferer and understand only too well what he may have gone through. Depression is evil. And irrational. as to detaining those considered a risk to others, police can’t do anything until a crime is committed despite evidence to suggest it is likely. Same for medics, they may feel the risk exists but are powerless in general to prevent. What seems to have happened in this case is a lack of coordination between medical professionals and a lack of communication with family. But this is easier said than done when dealing with 100s, maybe 1000s of cases that don’t result in tragedy. No consolation for the victims and their families. Sorry to hear that dohnut. You come across as such a strong minded individual, but then again so was Sir Winston Churchill and he also suffered from bouts of depression.
Keep your spirits up and when you are down, try to think of the good things that you have in life and the love that surrounds you from your friends and family.
|
|
|
|
Post by dohnut on Aug 12, 2024 12:15:15 GMT
Didn’t realise about Thorpe, tragic. I too am a sufferer and understand only too well what he may have gone through. Depression is evil. And irrational. as to detaining those considered a risk to others, police can’t do anything until a crime is committed despite evidence to suggest it is likely. Same for medics, they may feel the risk exists but are powerless in general to prevent. What seems to have happened in this case is a lack of coordination between medical professionals and a lack of communication with family. But this is easier said than done when dealing with 100s, maybe 1000s of cases that don’t result in tragedy. No consolation for the victims and their families. Sorry to hear that dohnut. You come across as such a strong minded individual, but then again so was Sir Winston Churchill and he also suffered from bouts of depression.
Keep your spirits up and when you are down, try to think of the good things that you have in life and the love that surrounds you from your friends and family.
Family is what helps me. I know what it’s like to wake up in the morning and wish I hadn’t. But luckily for me the real down times pass and sanity returns. I have learned to manage it. For some, like Graham Thorpe I guess, never do. |
|
|
|
Post by Fisch on Aug 12, 2024 14:10:32 GMT
Sadly, rational advice doesn't overcome depression. lf it did, nobody would suffer from it.
|
|
|
|
Post by redshank on Aug 12, 2024 16:49:59 GMT
Sadly, rational advice doesn't overcome depression. lf it did, nobody would suffer from it. Tried almost everything from psychotherapy, tablets,meditation Goodmayes but it still had its way,and still does.I have often been over the O's in a depressive trance of nothingness.Have learned to let it go its own way. |
|
|
|
Post by Thor on Aug 12, 2024 17:34:40 GMT
Positivity helps to ward off the dark arts, train your brain to be positive, think positive, plan positive and be positive.
Good medication such as prozac from your doctor can also bring a calmness and balance to the brain.
It will help anyone suffering.
|
|
|
|
Post by dohnut on Aug 12, 2024 18:36:33 GMT
Positivity helps to ward off the dark arts, train your brain to be positive, think positive, plan positive and be positive. Good medication such as prozac from your doctor can also bring a calmness and balance to the brain. It will help anyone suffering. Despite what some feel about my posts, I’ve been a hugely positive person all my life. Massive can-do attitude. mostly achieved. I was very good at my job. But life takes its toll and at the time I didn’t realise just how much. Things creep up on you quietly, un-noticed by me for sure. Thats the danger! The silent creep. My job was hugely stressful, my job not only affected me but the lives and careers of many others. But I managed it. Coped. All in a days work stuff. But the damage was happening. Only now do I realise the impact. Generalised Anxiety Disorder. Stress over minor things, never a day goes by when I don’t find something to worry about, despite inwardly knowing I don’t need to worry about much. I am a very logical person and GAD conflicts with that. The rational vs the irrational is a toxic combination. I can really understand people who are outwardly successful, seem to have everything, falling victim of a serious mental disorder. So a positive mental attitude helps, to a degree. I absolutely refuse to consider medication. Right now it’s a battle I’m winning through strength of mind and a loving family. |
|
