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Post by mrb on Aug 20, 2024 8:47:11 GMT
Many happy returns hwo..I wouldn’t have put that age on you..(not older!!😄) Thanks mate. Must be the Rum that's good for the complexion 😂 As long as it’s St Lucian rum!! 😉 |
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Post by Thor on Aug 20, 2024 9:16:04 GMT
You are ageing well, many happy returns on your 50th! Have a great day.
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Post by redshank on Aug 20, 2024 10:37:55 GMT
Haven't forgotten the previous game, May 1974, the 1-1 draw against Villa that cost us promotion back to Div.1. Crowd of just under 30,000. The worst drive home...ever.Just about scraped the journey home after the abandoned Colchester game.But following the Colchester game the worst one could ever feel as an Orient supporter.The relief when Nige Kent and Martin took us from oblivion was the best. |
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Post by haroldwoodo on Aug 20, 2024 11:01:53 GMT
You are ageing well, many happy returns on your 50th! Have a great day. Thank you mate |
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Post by redshank on Aug 20, 2024 13:52:54 GMT
50 is a great age,enjoy your best days.
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Post by tommydark on Aug 20, 2024 14:45:37 GMT
Was thinking one of the most spectacular falls from the top flight was poor Oldham.
Remember our cup game of 1992 they were top tier.Peter Eustace our manager had us very fit then, he rode a mountain bike alongside our squad running in Epping forest shouting insults at various players.
We played a tepid 90mins then sprung to next gear in extra time and thrashed them 4-2
Point being today we can't match the budgets of the big teams but superior fitness wins football matches.
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Post by dohnut on Aug 20, 2024 19:05:33 GMT
Was thinking one of the most spectacular falls from the top flight was poor Oldham. Remember our cup game of 1992 they were top tier.Peter Eustace our manager had us very fit then, he rode a mountain bike alongside our squad running in Epping forest shouting insults at various players. We played a tepid 90mins then sprung to next gear in extra time and thrashed them 4-2 Point being today we can't match the budgets of the big teams but superior fitness wins football matches. Superior fitness helps but we have moved on from the days when work rate was king. Fitness matters of course but skills and quality win in the end. Any number of numpties can run around like headless chickens but without the skills they win nothing. A skilled player can improve his fitness. A fit person cannot become a quality player through exercise. |
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Post by Thor on Aug 20, 2024 20:31:15 GMT
Was thinking one of the most spectacular falls from the top flight was poor Oldham. Remember our cup game of 1992 they were top tier.Peter Eustace our manager had us very fit then, he rode a mountain bike alongside our squad running in Epping forest shouting insults at various players. We played a tepid 90mins then sprung to next gear in extra time and thrashed them 4-2 Point being today we can't match the budgets of the big teams but superior fitness wins football matches. Superior fitness helps but we have moved on from the days when work rate was king. Fitness matters of course but skills and quality win in the end. Any number of numpties can run around like headless chickens but without the skills they win nothing. A skilled player can improve his fitness. A fit person cannot become a quality player through exercise. A professional club now work on the basis of wanting an athlete first and we can train them to be footballers. You can't make a footballer an athlete is what the believe these days. My mate left Spurs over it. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 20, 2024 20:48:32 GMT
Superior fitness helps but we have moved on from the days when work rate was king. Fitness matters of course but skills and quality win in the end. Any number of numpties can run around like headless chickens but without the skills they win nothing. A skilled player can improve his fitness. A fit person cannot become a quality player through exercise. A professional club now work on the basis of wanting an athlete first and we can train them to be footballers. You can't make a footballer an athlete is what the believe these days. My mate left Spurs over it. Is that right? Wow. When I was young I was fit, could run all day and for my age very athletic. But was relatively crap at football. I say relative because playing school, club and County football is a million miles from being good enough to be a pro. I was born at the wrong time. I’m clearly out of touch. |
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Post by redshank on Aug 21, 2024 9:52:02 GMT
Was thinking one of the most spectacular falls from the top flight was poor Oldham. Remember our cup game of 1992 they were top tier.Peter Eustace our manager had us very fit then, he rode a mountain bike alongside our squad running in Epping forest shouting insults at various players. We played a tepid 90mins then sprung to next gear in extra time and thrashed them 4-2 Point being today we can't match the budgets of the big teams but superior fitness wins football matches. Jimmy Bloomfield when he joined Orient stated that we cannot afford the best players but we can have the fittest.It certainly showed in 1969-1970 when we became Division three Champions and propelled us toward our best decade in football. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 21, 2024 22:07:18 GMT
Interesting and I must be wrong
I’ve always felt you could go over Hackney Marsh and get a group of young men and train them until super fit, yet they would never be any more than Sunday morning players. I include myself in that category.
But whilst fitness is important, to be a professional you need to be that bit better, not just in body but in mind, speed of thought. I struggle with the concept that fitness alone can create a good player. Again I class myself in that category. I was fit but a mediocre player. How do I know. I’ve had the privilege (and it was ) of sharing the same football field as professionals and it was more than fitness that separated our ability. When you see it up close it’s chalk and cheese. The greatest regret of my young life was not being good enough (Played 2 trial games at Brisbane Road back in the day) and no amount of fitness was ever going to change that. You’ve either got it or you haven’t. Fitness don’t bridge the gap.
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