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Post by billericayo on Aug 28, 2024 7:38:24 GMT
Good performance all round no weak link to be seen, Beccles outstanding. Everybody put a shift in. Ritchie waited till 80th minute before using substitutes as Millwall toiled away trying to break us down but not really getting anywhere, not even sure if Millwall actually got a shot on target. The ground much improved from old Den, fans still the same though and treated us to a one man pitch invasion. Visitor stand Good food in and outside the stand served quickly card only. Toilets clean, big everything worked, No smell unlike our South stand, soap in dispenser safe to move around, remarkably no heavy police inforcement. Stewards calm and non threatening good night out Well done the O's
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Post by sammiiii on Aug 28, 2024 10:06:33 GMT
It's almost like we've played well in every game minus Charlton away...
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Post by Thor on Aug 28, 2024 10:21:19 GMT
We didn't play badly against charlton either, we just ran out of steam.
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Post by alfresco on Aug 28, 2024 11:08:57 GMT
Apart from the goal, we didn't have a single shot on target, which is worrying
Thought we played well, though how much was that because Millwall were awful?
Some good performances, but also a few not so good performances.
Perkins will not make a decent league 1 striker anytime soon, & DJ looks poor to me.
If Agyei, & or Kelman get injured, we're in big trouble, I reckon
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Post by mrb on Aug 28, 2024 11:47:09 GMT
Apart from the goal, we didn't have a single shot on target, which is worrying Thought we played well, though how much was that because Millwall were awful? Some good performances, but also a few not so good performances. Perkins will not make a decent league 1 striker anytime soon, & DJ looks poor to me. If Agyei, & or Kelman get injured, we're in big trouble, I reckon Couldn’t have said any different 👍🏾
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Post by mrb on Aug 28, 2024 11:48:47 GMT
Let’s see how we get on against Shrews..The real revivement might begin IF we win..
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Post by redintheface on Aug 28, 2024 12:17:02 GMT
Let’s see how we get on against Shrews..The real revivement might begin IF we win.. Much needed confidence booster last night and some of the performances should put a doubt or two in RW’s mind prior to final team selection for Saturday. It’s an important game and although Shrewsbury certainly won’t have the level of quality on display that Millwall did last night I’m willing to bet they will show up with a great deal more grit and determination.it certainly wont be easy but we should be able to put our first point(s) on the board.🤞👍
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Post by dohnut on Aug 28, 2024 12:20:01 GMT
Millwall were shockingly poor. We were decent enough. A couple of outstanding performances, Agyie and Beckles but the rest just competent. The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored. Defensively very good, 0 shots on target from Millwall by any measure is excellent. Only one shot on target from us, not so.
As a squad we have always recognised our back line is the strength of our team and so it is turning out. No real surprise. But for our performances to be considered good, that quality needs to run through not only the back line, but through midfield and up front. We are good at nullifying the opposition. Restricting chances. But that’s it. Very little else other than work rate. In the league we concede, we lose. The bottom line.
Our midfield just ain’t good enough yet , in the first 10 minutes I counted 5 long upfield punts that came to nothing, thankfully that stopped to a degree. Where is the ball carrying midfielder? where is the dominant midfielder able to put his foot on the ball, look around, make the quality pass? Bar the odd occasion they don’t exist. Just huff and puff instead of quality.
Restricting opposition chances is a great place to start. But it is just that, a start. Until the midfield and forwards improve we just rely on work rate, high press. Because the creativity just ain’t there, yet.
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Post by redshank on Aug 28, 2024 12:33:13 GMT
Knock knock,whose there? Knockers,knock on knockers.
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Post by mrb on Aug 28, 2024 12:36:03 GMT
Knock knock,who’s there? Knockers,knock on knockers. That’s an opportunity
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Post by sammiiii on Aug 28, 2024 12:59:10 GMT
- The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored I would argue its the frustration of poor results causing objectivity to be ignored. We seem to forget that the points lost in these games were from individual mistakes. I'm genuinely a bit baffled by the pessimism on this forum. We've played 3 of the league favourites, lost by 1 goal each time and could easily have have gotten points from all 3!
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Post by brentwoodo on Aug 28, 2024 13:04:48 GMT
I do get a little worried when Beckles does a back pass to Hemming. Both are prone to howlers of immense proportions.
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Post by redintheface on Aug 28, 2024 13:23:36 GMT
Knock knock,who’s there? Knockers,knock on knockers. That’s an opportunity And I mean that most sincerely friends , I really do!
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Post by dohnut on Aug 28, 2024 13:26:54 GMT
- The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored I would argue its the frustration of poor results causing objectivity to be ignored. We seem to forget that the points lost in these games were from individual mistakes. I'm genuinely a bit baffled by the pessimism on this forum. We've played 3 of the league favourites, lost by 1 goal each time and could easily have have gotten points from all 3! I guess over the years my objectivity kicks in. I’m far from pessimistic, in fact I’ve little doubt we will climb the table and be safely mid table come the end of the season. The wins will come. Starting Saturday I hope. But as fans we can all be guilty of looking through rose tinted glasses at times, though I do it less these day. Millwall were shocking, ‘rubbish’ is like heaping praise on them, they weren’t even that good. Look at their fans forum. We can only play the team in front of us, but let’s not get carried away. They had 0 shots on target, to our 1. Exciting stuff. In reality we worked hard in what was a drab game. Only passion added interest, not the football. We make excuses like we need time to gel. Shock horror, so do Bolton, Charlton and Birmingham. None of those three were, in my opinion, very good against us. But they too will gel in time. We were as good as Birmingham! Really, I’d swap squads right now. We don’t allow teams many chances! True, but we don’t create many either. We have players who, in time, could be great. Of course by then they won’t be playing for us. I want players who are really good right now. Answers on a postcard (or postage stamp). What we lack in quality we make up for in energy, work rate. We’ve already seen against Charlton that has its limits. Let’s reconsider after 30/35 games if we can still maintain that. We didn’t last season. The young players, tough season excuses at the ready for recall. Our squad is decent enough, good work ethic. God help any in the squad who want to play stylish football rather than run around full on all game, they don’t last long. But we will be ok. Some good moments and bad ones. But overall good enough.
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Post by sammiiii on Aug 28, 2024 14:27:54 GMT
- The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored I would argue its the frustration of poor results causing objectivity to be ignored. We seem to forget that the points lost in these games were from individual mistakes. I'm genuinely a bit baffled by the pessimism on this forum. We've played 3 of the league favourites, lost by 1 goal each time and could easily have have gotten points from all 3! I guess over the years my objectivity kicks in. I’m far from pessimistic, in fact I’ve little doubt we will climb the table and be safely mid table come the end of the season. The wins will come. Starting Saturday I hope. But as fans we can all be guilty of looking through rose tinted glasses at times, though I do it less these day. Millwall were shocking, ‘rubbish’ is like heaping praise on them, they weren’t even that good. Look at their fans forum. We can only play the team in front of us, but let’s not get carried away. They had 0 shots on target, to our 1. Exciting stuff. In reality we worked hard in what was a drab game. Only passion added interest, not the football. We make excuses like we need time to gel. Shock horror, so do Bolton, Charlton and Birmingham. None of those three were, in my opinion, very good against us. But they too will gel in time. We were as good as Birmingham! Really, I’d swap squads right now. We don’t allow teams many chances! True, but we don’t create many either. We have players who, in time, could be great. Of course by then they won’t be playing for us. I want players who are really good right now. Answers on a postcard (or postage stamp). What we lack in quality we make up for in energy, work rate. We’ve already seen against Charlton that has its limits. Let’s reconsider after 30/35 games if we can still maintain that. We didn’t last season. The young players, tough season excuses at the ready for recall. Our squad is decent enough, good work ethic. God help any in the squad who want to play stylish football rather than run around full on all game, they don’t last long. But we will be ok. Some good moments and bad ones. But overall good enough. I can't agree that I've got my rose-tinted glasses on but I guess we're just looking at it with different perspectives. One measurement for how well we are playing, is that all 3 Managers from these big clubs have fist pumped to their fans after scraping victories against us! Little old Leyton Orient they say
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Post by Thor on Aug 28, 2024 14:30:23 GMT
Millwall were shockingly poor. We were decent enough. A couple of outstanding performances, Agyie and Beckles but the rest just competent. The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored. Defensively very good, 0 shots on target from Millwall by any measure is excellent. Only one shot on target from us, not so. As a squad we have always recognised our back line is the strength of our team and so it is turning out. No real surprise. But for our performances to be considered good, that quality needs to run through not only the back line, but through midfield and up front. We are good at nullifying the opposition. Restricting chances. But that’s it. Very little else other than work rate. In the league we concede, we lose. The bottom line. Our midfield just ain’t good enough yet , in the first 10 minutes I counted 5 long upfield punts that came to nothing, thankfully that stopped to a degree. Where is the ball carrying midfielder? where is the dominant midfielder able to put his foot on the ball, look around, make the quality pass? Bar the odd occasion they don’t exist. Just huff and puff instead of quality. Restricting opposition chances is a great place to start. But it is just that, a start. Until the midfield and forwards improve we just rely on work rate, high press. Because the creativity just ain’t there, yet. holy s*** batman, what negativity! Why are the top forwards costing over 100m? Cos they get one chance and score. We had one effort on goal and scored, that's proper finishing yet your ripping the crap out the team. Stand up for the Orient. The Orient Express is off and running now. Get behind the lads, it's gonna be interesting. I'm off to continue drinking. I can't hack this negativity Dohnut. Up the O's!
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Post by redintheface on Aug 28, 2024 14:39:43 GMT
Dohnut is right to be cautious. Having supported the club for ( too) many years I’ve seen many false dawns I’m afraid. As I said elsewhere on this forum yesterday, I think it’s sensible to allow 8-10 games to transpire before coming to any definite conclusions. If that’s seen as “ negative” by some so be it. There’s nothing more negative imho than O’s fans pillorying other O’s fans simply because they hold a contrary view about players/ manager’s/ transfer activity etc,etc.👍
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Post by Nick312 on Aug 28, 2024 14:45:26 GMT
- The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored I would argue its the frustration of poor results causing objectivity to be ignored. We seem to forget that the points lost in these games were from individual mistakes. I'm genuinely a bit baffled by the pessimism on this forum. We've played 3 of the league favourites, lost by 1 goal each time and could easily have have gotten points from all 3! I agree. If we observe the results from all five starting games then 1-2, 0-1, 1-2, 4-1 and 1-0 shows that we have a 7-6 aggregate. Ok, one of the opposition teams was a League Two team, but the Championship team balances that. The two 2s were from top sides. I think we should expect to get a point this Saturday. A point the following Saturday would also have been decent. So I think we're getting the piston pumps up to some sort of speed. I'm all optimism.
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Post by Nick312 on Aug 28, 2024 14:46:24 GMT
Dohnut is right to be cautious. Having supported the club for ( too) many years I’ve seen many false dawns I’m afraid. As I said elsewhere on this forum yesterday, I think it’s sensible to allow 8-10 games to transpire before coming to any definite conclusions. If that’s seen as “ negative” by some so be it. There’s nothing more negative imho than O’s fans pillorying other O’s fans simply because they hold a contrary view about players/ manager’s/ transfer activity etc,etc.👍 He wasn't pillorying, he was expressing caution about the pessimism.
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Post by dohnut on Aug 28, 2024 15:38:43 GMT
Millwall were shockingly poor. We were decent enough. A couple of outstanding performances, Agyie and Beckles but the rest just competent. The euphoria of the win causing objectivity to be ignored. Defensively very good, 0 shots on target from Millwall by any measure is excellent. Only one shot on target from us, not so. As a squad we have always recognised our back line is the strength of our team and so it is turning out. No real surprise. But for our performances to be considered good, that quality needs to run through not only the back line, but through midfield and up front. We are good at nullifying the opposition. Restricting chances. But that’s it. Very little else other than work rate. In the league we concede, we lose. The bottom line. Our midfield just ain’t good enough yet , in the first 10 minutes I counted 5 long upfield punts that came to nothing, thankfully that stopped to a degree. Where is the ball carrying midfielder? where is the dominant midfielder able to put his foot on the ball, look around, make the quality pass? Bar the odd occasion they don’t exist. Just huff and puff instead of quality. Restricting opposition chances is a great place to start. But it is just that, a start. Until the midfield and forwards improve we just rely on work rate, high press. Because the creativity just ain’t there, yet. holy s*** batman, what negativity! Why are the top forwards costing over 100m? Cos they get one chance and score. We had one effort on goal and scored, that's proper finishing yet your ripping the crap out the team. Stand up for the Orient. The Orient Express is off and running now. Get behind the lads, it's gonna be interesting. I'm off to continue drinking. I can't hack this negativity Dohnut. Up the O's! I’ve been supporting Orient for 65 years, actually going to games, a real supporter putting my money and time where my mouth is. So stop all this me and negativity crap, please. When you’ve achieved what I have as a supporter, put up with what I have, then you can talk. If what I do is negative in your opinion you need to have a long hard think. My actions, not words, is positively and optimism in the extreme. Otherwise I would have given up years ago. For sure you’ve been drinking. Think again when the alcohol wears off. I’m a real supporter but a realist not delusional. We are work in progress. A win against a shocking Millwall team, whilst extremely enjoyable, doesn’t make us there yet. Our performances thus far whilst decent enough have not been great. Plenty of room for improvement. Plenty. For what it’s worth £100m strikers miss too, in case you hadn’t noticed.
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