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Post by buffalobill on Sept 2, 2024 13:33:34 GMT
I have never been a football coach, never played the game to any significant level, but have watched a lot of games over the years, of varying quality and that includes my beloved O’s.
Saturdays result was a kick in the proverbials and I felt like ranting and raving about the team, management, ownership et al, but whilst it might temporarily have made me feel better, what do I know and why should I feel that we should be doing better?
So I’ve taken a step back, limited my reading and listened to what the expert in our club has to say.
It was a bad day, it wasn’t the first and won’t be the last, but this team will start to pick up points and we are still, as a club, alive and kicking.
So I’ve taken my deep breath and put back on my rose tinted spectacles and am looking to watching my team on Tuesday.
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Post by redshank on Sept 2, 2024 16:29:38 GMT
Good stuff bill,we all rage but we all love Orient and the same faces will be in the same seats at the next match.
Our motto in latin is voluit pati,chose to suffer.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 2, 2024 17:11:15 GMT
I have never been a football coach, never played the game to any significant level, but have watched a lot of games over the years, of varying quality and that includes my beloved O’s. Saturdays result was a kick in the proverbials and I felt like ranting and raving about the team, management, ownership et al, but whilst it might temporarily have made me feel better, what do I know and why should I feel that we should be doing better? So I’ve taken a step back, limited my reading and listened to what the expert in our club has to say. It was a bad day, it wasn’t the first and won’t be the last, but this team will start to pick up points and we are still, as a club, alive and kicking. So I’ve taken my deep breath and put back on my rose tinted spectacles and am looking to watching my team on Tuesday. Good way of viewing it. We’ve had worse results before and have no doubt will again. What irritated me was the pre-game propaganda about past performances (truth being they were just OK) creating an ill founded expectation. Few believed we would lose, except Shrewsbury! The players were just not mentally up for it. I really don’t know why such things get to me. In truth it doesn’t affect my life in any way. At least it shouldn’t. But it does. Irrational. |
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Post by redshank on Sept 2, 2024 17:23:46 GMT
I have never been a football coach, never played the game to any significant level, but have watched a lot of games over the years, of varying quality and that includes my beloved O’s. Saturdays result was a kick in the proverbials and I felt like ranting and raving about the team, management, ownership et al, but whilst it might temporarily have made me feel better, what do I know and why should I feel that we should be doing better? So I’ve taken a step back, limited my reading and listened to what the expert in our club has to say. It was a bad day, it wasn’t the first and won’t be the last, but this team will start to pick up points and we are still, as a club, alive and kicking. So I’ve taken my deep breath and put back on my rose tinted spectacles and am looking to watching my team on Tuesday. Good way of viewing it. We’ve had worse results before and have no doubt will again. What irritated me was the pre-game propaganda about past performances (truth being they were just OK) creating an ill founded expectation. Few believed we would lose, except Shrewsbury! The players were just not mentally up for it. I really don’t know why such things get to me. In truth it doesn’t affect my life in any way. At least it shouldn’t. But it does. Irrational. The Leyton Orient effect dohnut,could you imagine your life if you did not like sport. |
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Post by dohnut on Sept 2, 2024 17:39:28 GMT
Good way of viewing it. We’ve had worse results before and have no doubt will again. What irritated me was the pre-game propaganda about past performances (truth being they were just OK) creating an ill founded expectation. Few believed we would lose, except Shrewsbury! The players were just not mentally up for it. I really don’t know why such things get to me. In truth it doesn’t affect my life in any way. At least it shouldn’t. But it does. Irrational. The Leyton Orient effect dohnut,could you imagine your life if you did not like sport. The Orient curse redshank. I really really really wish I didn’t care. |
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Post by harrycat on Sept 2, 2024 18:00:38 GMT
But you do care. Like most of if not all of us. Otherwise you would like many fans support a successful premier league club. That would be so boring though. The highs and lows of supporting your local team from early childhood.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 2, 2024 20:39:50 GMT
But you do care. Like most of if not all of us. Otherwise you would like many fans support a successful premier league club. That would be so boring though. The highs and lows of supporting your local team from early childhood. Just because you support a big club doesn’t mean you don’t have the same passion as us. Many are just as passionate. And pay a huge ticket price for the privilege. The difference being the bigger clubs will have a large group of fans who like the name and the success but don’t have the passion. Like Manchester United fans who don’t know where Manchester is. I have a relative who is a Liverpool fan. Never been to the ground, never seen them play. But when conversations arise he is a fan. Not for me. |
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Post by Fisch on Sept 2, 2024 20:55:15 GMT
........ Never been to the ground, never seen them play. But when conversations arise he is a fan. Not for me. I've never understood that. It's like tribalism gorn bonkers. |
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Post by harrycat on Sept 2, 2024 21:06:47 GMT
I agree with both of you Certainly a lot of fans of the big teams are true supporters but I know of a number who swap to another club which are more successful just for the glory
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Post by mrb on Sept 3, 2024 4:56:41 GMT
But you do care. Like most of if not all of us. Otherwise you would like many fans support a successful premier league club. That would be so boring though. The highs and lows of supporting your local team from early childhood. Just because you support a big club doesn’t mean you don’t have the same passion as us. Many are just as passionate. And pay a huge ticket price for the privilege. The difference being the bigger clubs will have a large group of fans who like the name and the success but don’t have the passion. Like Manchester United fans who don’t know where Manchester is. I have a relative who is a Liverpool fan. Never been to the ground, never seen them play. But when conversations arise he is a fan. Not for me. I know loads and loads of “fans” like that. They mainly “follow” Manure followed closely by Liverpool |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2024 12:06:26 GMT
People want different things out of supporting a football team and can do so how they wish. Plenty just want to enjoy watching football without the trappings of what we might consider authentic fandom. Besides, let's not pretend the lifelong matchgoing fans don't love having people they can feel better than!
Of course, it's often those "real fans" who use loyalty and a lifelong support for their local club to justify propping up the soft power instruments of crooks, oligarchs and autocrats. That kind of loyalty is as much for sale as any so-called glory hunter's.
I feel like the sport might be better off if we normalised changing teams tbh, at least for the reasons of being taken for a mug. But maybe I just think that cos I've been there and done it 😅
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