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Post by Fisch on Sept 11, 2024 16:51:16 GMT
Svetlana is an accountant but had to flee her town in the Donbas and came here in N Croatia with a few suitcases, her pets and kids. Now works in a local Spar supermarket and rents a little house in the hills. Her husband joined the military from the outset.
Today, he was in the wrong place at the wrong moment and was killed. Now she has no partner, no property and her residency visa is not a long term one.
Perspective 😥
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Post by watfordo on Sept 11, 2024 17:11:21 GMT
Awful. Perspective.
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Post by kbola on Sept 11, 2024 18:23:49 GMT
Tragic we must stop Putin.
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Post by beo on Sept 11, 2024 19:03:22 GMT
Stop Putin and Zelensky to some extent. So many dying in this way. A good amount of men in that country have been round up like a safari by government vehicles and forced into war against their will. Amidst suspended elections also.
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Post by harrycat on Sept 11, 2024 21:03:27 GMT
Makes you realise how lucky you are.
I am a volunteer for a Masonic Charity and help other charities. See a lot of sad cases. Life is cruel for so many people throughout the World.
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Post by redshank on Sept 13, 2024 12:36:39 GMT
It has always been a troubled world.Those that think they can make it a better place are in main the problem
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Post by dohnut on Sept 13, 2024 13:16:22 GMT
Stop Putin and Zelensky to some extent. So many dying in this way. A good amount of men in that country have been round up like a safari by government vehicles and forced into war against their will. Amidst suspended elections also. I believe that is the case in Russia. I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 13, 2024 14:02:54 GMT
Stop Putin and Zelensky to some extent. So many dying in this way. A good amount of men in that country have been round up like a safari by government vehicles and forced into war against their will. Amidst suspended elections also. I believe that is the case in Russia. I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. Terrible and unnecessary war. Perhaps Putin felt provoked by the ever expanding NATO and Ukraine wanting to join the EU along with NATO. Putin still views the Ukraine as part of Russia and wants to recreate the old Soviet Union. The war is getting worse and god knows how it will end up. |
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 14:04:42 GMT
Stop Putin and Zelensky to some extent. So many dying in this way. A good amount of men in that country have been round up like a safari by government vehicles and forced into war against their will. Amidst suspended elections also. I believe that is the case in Russia. Â I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. But isn't Putin only taking back land that belongs to Russia? Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West. Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 13, 2024 15:38:42 GMT
I believe that is the case in Russia. I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. But isn't Putin only taking back land that belongs to Russia? Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West. Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time. '' Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West'' Yes that has not helped.
''Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time'' I dont think they do eg ''want this one to kick off now big time'' Do not have the illusion that Putin is a Mr Nice Guy, that he aint, Russian elections where opposition politician parties are banned and also too many people brutally bumped off or put in penal colonies if they dare to speak openly in opposition to Putin.
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Post by buffalobill on Sept 13, 2024 16:07:34 GMT
I believe that is the case in Russia.  I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. But isn't Putin only taking back land that belongs to Russia? Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West. Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time. The Soviet Union was made up of lots of various peoples who wanted to go their own way after the break up of the Soviet Union. Ukraine became an independent country, the majority of whom were Ukrainians rather than Russian, gave up their nuclear weapons under a treaty to which Russia guaranteed their independence. They have a history of being treated badly by the Russians, millions died in a famine during Stalins time, which some historians believe the Russians could have avoided and some have labelled it a genocide. Putin has written about how he wishes to re establish Russian control of what he sees are traditional Russian lands, Ukraine being one, but the Baltic states aren’t safe from him. He didn’t need an excuse to invade, he wants his place in history and he doesn’t care how many people he kills to get it. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 13, 2024 16:28:53 GMT
But isn't Putin only taking back land that belongs to Russia? Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West. Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time. The Soviet Union was made up of lots of various peoples who wanted to go their own way after the break up of the Soviet Union. Ukraine became an independent country, the majority of whom were Ukrainians rather than Russian, gave up their nuclear weapons under a treaty to which Russia guaranteed their independence. They have a history of being treated badly by the Russians, millions died in a famine during Stalins time, which some historians believe the Russians could have avoided and some have labelled it a genocide. Putin has written about how he wishes to re establish Russian control of what he sees are traditional Russian lands, Ukraine being one, but the Baltic states aren’t safe from him. He didn’t need an excuse to invade, he wants his place in history and he doesn’t care how many people he kills to get it. Very true. For just one example, as happened with the Deportation, execution, ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Cossacks |
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Post by kbola on Sept 13, 2024 17:35:51 GMT
I believe that is the case in Russia. I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. But isn't Putin only taking back land that belongs to Russia? Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West. Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time. This is the propaganda Putin would have you believe |
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Post by orientsc on Sept 13, 2024 20:35:18 GMT
I believe that is the case in Russia.  I suspect in Ukraine its people who willingly want to fight for the freedom of the country they love and their families who live there. But isn't Putin only taking back land that belongs to Russia? Didn't the west cause this problem with the expansion of Nato despite promising not too? We are not blame free in the West. Trouble is the Democrats love a war and I'm sure they want this one to kick off now big time. Do you mean the US Democrats? I’m not in for trouble here, just to follow the thread. |
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 21:27:26 GMT
Yes
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