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Post by duvb on Sept 13, 2024 9:07:54 GMT
Good interview and he has every right to spend 6 minutes moaning about those people that moan. Of course that will be, like all football clubs, not every supporter who turn up, pay their money and in fact support the club financially. I’m sure he’s been around long enough to know how it works. I’ve little doubt many supporters were going to the Hive before he arrived and will continue to do so long after he’s gone. But obviously some made comments that annoyed him and he has replied in kind. Fair play. Criticsm should not be rejected out of hand if it is constructive. The benefits of this are huge and is covered on many management courses to improve growth and performance. Who knows if it was constructive? Seems a likeable sort of guy and judging on results Barnet doing well. Got to admit I like the Hive as a ground. I loved listening to him and he is right but there will always be some who will say 'I pays my money so will say what I like'. I might be negative to my mates in private but that is different - the players and club dont hear it. I do not shout negatively to our players or post negative comments on MBs or social media - it just doesnt help anyone.
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 10:24:32 GMT
Well I hope the labour voters on here are happy. Taking away the winter fuel allowance will apparently by a report they commissioned but refuse to publish says 3,850 people will die due to this policy. Its an absolute disgrace that the most vulnerable people some of whom are living on the breadline are being treated in such a way.
I note Reeves has already claimed her £3,900 winter fuel allowance allowed for MP's what a nasty person she is.
Make no mistake this government led by Kid Starver is coming for us all.
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 10:34:27 GMT
Thatcher dropping truth bombs which are still true today. No wonder Kid starver removed her portrait as he couldn't face looking at the best PM since Churchill.
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Post by eca on Sept 13, 2024 10:48:41 GMT
Do not like Thatcher. I did not like her side kick Tebbitt “get on your bike “ Notwithstanding her rhetoric in the video above she with her patronising behaviour, fake accent tone she did go to war to increase her popularity for what - a proxy island in the middle of nowhere to then contribute in sinking a retreating enemy warship killing so many.
Then we had the poll tax if memory serves me adequately and so many other rubbish laws
I voted Conservative due to my stupidity and they encouraged people to opt out of contributing to the state pension by paying into a private pension
I did that like a fool and it ended up four decades later as the private pension element is called an annuity which does NOT give adequate returns as per the state pension
Without giving away my life on here with other crap legislation she introduced and resulted in a poor outcome for me I say good riddance to her memory and her cronies.
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 11:03:56 GMT
That's fine ECA she had her fans and haters too. Her record overall was good in my opinion. She didn't get everything right and made mistakes, but look at the prosperity she created in this country. Allowing people to get on in life, to earn well and keep more of it. Aspiration was a good word.
Now my aspirations for my children is gonna be 20% whacked on their school fees. Jealously policies never work. Starmer had a paid for education, as did Corbyns kids as did Abbotts and Harman's son went to the best school in the country, I know my eldest son was there too. Again its don't do as I do, do as I say.
I doubt I'm gonna last this parliament, and having tried to retire at 46 and failed due to boredom I might be trying it again, this time abroad. If my kids were not in school I'm sure I'd be off now.
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Post by tommydark on Sept 13, 2024 11:06:00 GMT
As Boris always said if labour get in it will be "Starmergeddon' Read an amusing quote by Boris' wife Carrie On the birth of their last child-they called him Frank,Alfred,Odysseus. " can you guess which name my husband chose?"
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Post by watfordo on Sept 13, 2024 11:10:41 GMT
Anyone that thins that Labour is socialist needs to have a word with Corbyn, Galloway etc. Labour isnt socialist and if they were they would never have been elected.
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Post by watfordo on Sept 13, 2024 11:11:35 GMT
As Boris always said if labour get in it will be "Starmergeddon' Read an amusing quote by Boris' wife Carrie On the birth of their last child-they called him Frank,Alfred,Odysseus. " can you guess which name my husband chose?" Boris was and is a massive self centred twat.
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Post by eca on Sept 13, 2024 11:13:58 GMT
I left uk in 1995
I have lived in New Zealand / USA / Australia -and most developed countries around the world have experienced growth and prosperity- none with the need of Thatcher.
I cannot comment on the current Priime Minister but unfortunately the Uk have a string of incompetence on all recent prime ministers both red and blue
It’s the same in most countries the population get lumbered with intellectually diminished people going into politics
If there is a God that could correct this I would be very happy - but there is nothing.
Look at the two in USA now it’s frightening their behaviour the way the talk.
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 11:44:10 GMT
Spot on ECA.
All politicians are of a very poor standard these days and I suspect its deliberate.
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Post by dohnut on Sept 13, 2024 12:16:36 GMT
I left uk in 1995 I have lived in New Zealand / USA / Australia -and most developed countries around the world have experienced growth and prosperity- none with the need of Thatcher. I cannot comment on the current Priime Minister but unfortunately the Uk have a string of incompetence on all recent prime ministers both red and blue It’s the same in most countries the population get lumbered with intellectually diminished people going into politics If there is a God that could correct this I would be very happy - but there is nothing. Look at the two in USA now it’s frightening their behaviour the way the talk. I have become disillusioned with politics now for a number of years, voting for best of poor quality candidates. Don’t see it changing anytime soon. Don't agree with the intellectually diminished comment, many are very bright. Just not good Prime Ministers, I don’t see our current one being any better. His ratings already dropped 30 points since the election. Where I do disagree is with some further down the hierarchy. Our local guy is exceptionally good and has done lots for our local community. There are some good, honest and dedicated people in politics, alas they tend not to be the ones who make it to the top.
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Post by eca on Sept 13, 2024 13:31:30 GMT
Correction
Intellectually diminished- change to
Common sense lack of
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Post by alfresco on Sept 13, 2024 14:19:56 GMT
The thing with politicians these days is they lie & they lie & they lie etc etc
30 years ago, if a politician was found to have lied, he would resign, in disgrace, but now its almost as if lying is part of the job
Look at the barefaced lies Johnson told, and now Starmer is trying to beat Johnson as the biggest liar
Starmer lied to win the Labour leadership, then lied time and again, once leader, then as PM his lying is off the scale
If he had told 100,000 pensioners, that soon as he won power, he would take their winter fuel allowance away, do you think they would have voted for him?
I dont know how we the people can raise the moral standards of our MP's, i really dont. Ive stopped voting for parties now, i try to find an Independent, whos views are similar to mine, and vote for them
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Post by eca on Sept 13, 2024 21:03:12 GMT
What I fail to comprehend is when a politician moves from a party to become an independent due to a party issue and them - the system permits that but surely if a MP is voted in by the public because the MP is part of a party how can a MP then just switch allegiance and retain their seat.
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Post by Thor on Sept 13, 2024 21:34:13 GMT
What I fail to comprehend is when a politician moves from a party to become an independent due to a party issue and them - the system permits that but surely if a MP is voted in by the public because the MP is part of a party how can a MP then just switch allegiance and retain their seat. looking after their own. A by election should absolutely be called, but isn't, jobs for the boys or girls. They are all grifters.
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Post by osoldguy on Sept 13, 2024 22:43:11 GMT
What I fail to comprehend is when a politician moves from a party to become an independent due to a party issue and them - the system permits that but surely if a MP is voted in by the public because the MP is part of a party how can a MP then just switch allegiance and retain their seat. looking after their own. A by election should absolutely be called, but isn't, jobs for the boys or girls. They are all grifters. Will anybody else like that ex military person who had the balls to be a whistle blower working in the Houses of Parliament a couple of years ago. He who blew the lid of the MP's scandal of expense scams they were claiming for. How they still get away with having their meals and beverages subsidised by the Taxpayer while they attend sittings is beyond me. Ihope Farage gets stuck into Starver and Reeves during Commons questions. I found him quite amusing while he attended the EU parliament.
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 14, 2024 8:10:40 GMT
The thing with politicians these days is they lie & they lie & they lie etc etc 30 years ago, if a politician was found to have lied, he would resign, in disgrace, but now its almost as if lying is part of the job Look at the barefaced lies Johnson told, and now Starmer is trying to beat Johnson as the biggest liar Starmer lied to win the Labour leadership, then lied time and again, once leader, then as PM his lying is off the scale If he had told 100,000 pensioners, that soon as he won power, he would take their winter fuel allowance away, do you think they would have voted for him? I dont know how we the people can raise the moral standards of our MP's, i really dont. Ive stopped voting for parties now, i try to find an Independent, whos views are similar to mine, and vote for them ''If he had told 100,000 pensioners, that soon as he won power, he would take their winter fuel allowance away, do you think they would have voted for him?'' Only 100.000 pensioners, change that into millions of pensioners !! Seems like the present Labour party hate pensioners maybe because many pensioners don't vote for them, but they look after their own don't they, e.g big rises for the Union workers, train drivers and private sector having to pay for the gold plated pensions for public sector workers including the civil servants etc !
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 14, 2024 8:14:30 GMT
Do not like Thatcher. I did not like her side kick Tebbitt “get on your bike “ Notwithstanding her rhetoric in the video above she with her patronising behaviour, fake accent tone she did go to war to increase her popularity for what - a proxy island in the middle of nowhere to then contribute in sinking a retreating enemy warship killing so many. Then we had the poll tax if memory serves me adequately and so many other rubbish laws I voted Conservative due to my stupidity and they encouraged people to opt out of contributing to the state pension by paying into a private pension I did that like a fool and it ended up four decades later as the private pension element is called an annuity which does NOT give adequate returns as per the state pension Without giving away my life on here with other crap legislation she introduced and resulted in a poor outcome for me I say good riddance to her memory and her cronies. I lived through the 70s and non stop strikes of that era, Red Robbo and his like who helped to cripple th UK car industry etc. Thank God Maggie clamped down on the unions and put a stop to all of that.
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Post by eca on Sept 14, 2024 8:16:04 GMT
Do not like Thatcher. I did not like her side kick Tebbitt “get on your bike “ Notwithstanding her rhetoric in the video above she with her patronising behaviour, fake accent tone she did go to war to increase her popularity for what - a proxy island in the middle of nowhere to then contribute in sinking a retreating enemy warship killing so many. Then we had the poll tax if memory serves me adequately and so many other rubbish laws I voted Conservative due to my stupidity and they encouraged people to opt out of contributing to the state pension by paying into a private pension I did that like a fool and it ended up four decades later as the private pension element is called an annuity which does NOT give adequate returns as per the state pension Without giving away my life on here with other crap legislation she introduced and resulted in a poor outcome for me I say good riddance to her memory and her cronies. I lived through the 70s and non stop strikes of that era, Red Robbo and his like who helped to cripple th UK car industry etc. Thank God Maggie clamped down on the unions and put a stop to all of that. From memory it was the Conservative Party under Heath that caused all the country to come to a stop
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Post by dennisrofe on Sept 14, 2024 8:34:21 GMT
I lived through the 70s and non stop strikes of that era, Red Robbo and his like who helped to cripple th UK car industry etc. Thank God Maggie clamped down on the unions and put a stop to all of that. From memory it was the Conservative Party under Heath that caused all the country to come to a stop You are remembering the three day week in the early 1970s when the three-Day Week was one of several measures introduced in the United Kingdom in 1973–1974 by Edward Heath's Conservative government to conserve electricity, the generation of which was severely restricted owing to industrial action by coal miners and railway workers. Nothing to do with the endless car strikes of the 70s etc and the winter of discontent all of which resulted in Mrs Thatcher winning the 1979 general election. ''The Winter of Discontent was the period between November 1978 and February 1979 in the United Kingdom characterised by widespread strikes by private, and later public, sector trade unions demanding pay rises greater than the limits Prime Minister James Callaghan and his Labour Party government had been imposing''
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