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Post by orientoutlookpodcast on Oct 6, 2024 22:21:25 GMT
Hi everyone, episode 366 of the Orient Outlook Podcast is now available to download on iTunes, www.soundcloud.com/orient-outlook, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn and Android Apps. In this huge show, we had a big chat with club Director Marshall Taylor about the economics around running Orient. He went into great detail and answered many questions from fans. If you want to have a better understanding about why things cost more at the club, why the club made the changes around the stadium and more about playing budget then you need to listen to this. Plus we rounded up all the news from around the club in the last 7 days including: Exeter and Lincoln match reviews Club news round up Loads of fan views Ladies team update Positives and negatives Hero of the week And loads more! Up the O’s |
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Post by eca on Oct 7, 2024 4:03:58 GMT
Interesting program
I acknowledge and respect RW football achievements- However,I agree 100% with the criticism of excessive micro managing from the touchline - I appreciate the manager needs to be passionate but it needs moderation- please give the players an opportunity to be more relaxed in that interface during the match.
I agree with the changing of players positions during a match at times appears too excessive.
I would be more concerned in the team conceding the number of shots into goals more than the need of a centre forward - we have excellent players they just need to be played in slightly different roles attacking.
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Post by Thor on Oct 7, 2024 8:48:22 GMT
Good episode lads and your frustrations are loud and clear, good to hear them actually.
I thought Marshall was very articulate and it’s interesting the budget was upped even further than Nigel originally said it would be pre season. The question remains is where is the value going to? Our losses will now top £4m yet Nigel was talking about a reduction on last seasons loss.
The saving grace is Richie is far too good to let us get relegated and the teams performances do not warrant the losses. When we finally click and I think he’s still finding out his best shape, players to play etc. then we will start to pick up wins.
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Post by redintheface on Oct 7, 2024 9:34:21 GMT
Lengthy episode but a good, open and honest interview with Marshall Taylor. I certainly don’t doubt the effort he puts in nor his sincerity but I do fear that one or two of his “ buckets” may have a hole in it!👍
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Post by Ramrod on Oct 7, 2024 10:47:41 GMT
A very good listen this one. The mood around the club is very down at the moment, and this is closely reflected in this episode.
I can imagine that, in private, the Board are fuming with the Council's stance on the ground, having to spend a lot of time and money on a fruitless exercise. But as far as I recall the Council never have done anything for us, so there's nothing new under the sun.
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Post by mrb on Oct 7, 2024 13:13:04 GMT
Very good episode but I’m not really none the wiser whether we’re short of cash or not
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Post by zimo on Oct 7, 2024 14:03:22 GMT
“The saving grace is Richie is far too good to let us get relegated”
Was it the Roy Keane and Brian Clough Forest team that were ‘too good to go down’ and were relegated.
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Post by stamfordo on Oct 7, 2024 14:28:56 GMT
Good episode lads and your frustrations are loud and clear, good to hear them actually. I thought Marshall was very articulate and it’s interesting the budget was upped even further than Nigel originally said it would be pre season. The question remains is where is the value going to? Our losses will now top £4m yet Nigel was talking about a reduction on last seasons loss. The saving grace is Richie is far too good to let us get relegated and the teams performances do not warrant the losses. When we finally click and I think he’s still finding out his best shape, players to play etc. then we will start to pick up wins. So £4m losses.so say roughly 8000 fans each could pay £500 to cover losses but people expect owners etc to cover these .what has Travis and Co ever done for us |
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Post by dohnut on Oct 7, 2024 14:32:53 GMT
“The saving grace is Richie is far too good to let us get relegated” Was it the Roy Keane and Brian Clough Forest team that were ‘too good to go down’ and were relegated. In a league full of decent teams, 4 decent team will be relegated. Don’t matter how good we are, it only matters how we compare to others. Thus far the answer to that is not very well. We shall improve, so will others. Tough times. Richie has a job to do, he is good enough I’m sure. Hope so. To come this far, quickly, then toss it away will be a great shame. |
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Post by Thor on Oct 7, 2024 14:40:49 GMT
Very good episode but I’m not really none the wiser whether we’re short of cash or not my feeling is that we are OK. The budget got pushed out further than Nigel had said previously and Marshall mentioned we are not being reckless, spending without care is reckless and we are not doing that. I don't think we've millions to go spend, but our bills will be paid on time and our heads will be above water. Marshall also said 1 or 2 incoming in Jan more likely loans than signings. Are we going to cut a couple of loans short? Or just add and pick the best 5? Again it signifies we are OK with cash rather than flush. As for the solar panels, does anyone know if we have battery capacity which captures the energy and stores it to be used for the floodlights which must be our biggest electrical expense? Or are we just dumping the excess back to the grid. |
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Post by ramblingman on Oct 7, 2024 15:57:34 GMT
A very good listen this one. The mood around the club is very down at the moment, and this is closely reflected in this episode. I can imagine that, in private, the Board are fuming with the Council's stance on the ground, having to spend a lot of time and money on a fruitless exercise. But as far as I recall the Council never have done anything for us, so there's nothing new under the sun. I can see why the council needs to convinced that Brissie is not an option. The council can't just allocate land in the Local Plan for a football club without considering the need for housing and other types of land use. The council has housing targets to meet. In addition it has always been my understanding that there is a covenant on Brissie which reserves it for leisure purposes- so if LOFC moves out the council has a headache finding another use. |
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Post by Ramrod on Oct 7, 2024 15:58:45 GMT
“The saving grace is Richie is far too good to let us get relegated” Was it the Roy Keane and Brian Clough Forest team that were ‘too good to go down’ and were relegated. It's nice to know we can all relax. |
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Post by orientoutlookpodcast on Oct 7, 2024 20:41:21 GMT
A very good listen this one. The mood around the club is very down at the moment, and this is closely reflected in this episode. I can imagine that, in private, the Board are fuming with the Council's stance on the ground, having to spend a lot of time and money on a fruitless exercise. But as far as I recall the Council never have done anything for us, so there's nothing new under the sun. Couldn't agree with you more. Nigel has said on many occasions the club are highly thought of and regarded by the council but their behaviours don't support this and quite frankly I don't think they see us very favourably at all. Paul |
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Post by orientoutlookpodcast on Oct 7, 2024 20:43:37 GMT
Very good episode but I’m not really none the wiser whether we’re short of cash or not To be absolutely clear, we are short of cash and Nigel puts in out of his own money to ensure we don't go bankrupt. Paul |
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Post by orientoutlookpodcast on Oct 7, 2024 20:47:56 GMT
Thanks to everyone who's listened and for the above comments. Glad to know some of the content has resonated with listeners and also created interesting talking points.
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Post by mrb on Oct 7, 2024 20:54:36 GMT
Thanks to everyone who's listened and for the above comments. Glad to know some of the content has resonated with listeners and also created interesting talking points. Nothing not to like about your show 👍🏾keep up the good work |
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Post by Thor on Oct 7, 2024 21:29:42 GMT
Very good episode but I’m not really none the wiser whether we’re short of cash or not To be absolutely clear, we are short of cash and Nigel puts in out of his own money to ensure we don't go bankrupt. Paul The vehicle was / is Eagle. Are you saying that it’s only Nigel putting in cash? That don’t sound right as shareholders will have a responsibility to fund the losses. They’ve signed off a going concern for 12 months, which doesn’t always mean anything, but should do. Paul what’s happened to the rest of the directors? Kent seems on board from what Marshall said. Can you speak anymore? |
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Post by dennisrofe on Oct 8, 2024 10:11:34 GMT
The Orient Outlook Podcast - Orient Outlook Podcast - Episode 366
In this huge show, we had a big chat with club Director Marshall Taylor about the economics around running Orient. He went into great detail and answered many questions from fans. If you want to have a better understanding about why things cost more at the club, why the club made the changes around the stadium and more about playing budget then you need to listen to this.
Plus we rounded up all the news from around the club in the last 7 days including:
Exeter and Lincoln match reviews
Club news round up
Loads of fan views
Ladies team update
Positives and negatives
Hero of the week
And loads more!
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Post by vinnyh on Oct 8, 2024 12:14:10 GMT
To be absolutely clear, we are short of cash and Nigel puts in out of his own money to ensure we don't go bankrupt. Paul The vehicle was / is Eagle. Are you saying that it’s only Nigel putting in cash? That don’t sound right as shareholders will have a responsibility to fund the losses. They’ve signed off a going concern for 12 months, which doesn’t always mean anything, but should do. Paul what’s happened to the rest of the directors? Kent seems on board from what Marshall said. Can you speak anymore? Without checking back and from memory, those new 'American' investors (Parry, etc) collectively put in x millions when they joined and that Nigel alluded at the time that it had to be stretched, in other words they wouldn't be putting in more. I suspect they are still using that money to cover the bills, with Nigel putting in x amount to make that investment stretch for as long as possible. Thing is once that investment is gone, it was be interesting to see if Nigel is able to cover all the losses. |
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