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Post by gizmo56 on Oct 29, 2024 10:27:42 GMT
For sure, that's right. Plus, players coming on a free may want some of the fee that the club has not paid, either upfront or in their wages.
A good hit rate, I reckon, is anything above 50%. If I remember this correctly, one way of measuring success is did the guy play more than 50% of minutes available over two years since the transfer.
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Post by tattyfilarious on Oct 29, 2024 10:30:04 GMT
Marshall Taylor said in a podcast that in the past we have lost players who were offered another £50 a week, now it's £3000/£4000 a week more. This is the problem. Someone outline how it will change next season.
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Post by redintheface on Oct 29, 2024 10:34:07 GMT
Most of Wycombe's incomings were free transfers, for example, Udoh and Onyedinma. Free, But wage demands perhaps high. Soteriou to Rovers on big bucks for example our owners are contributing plenty but have limits. The pressure to secure solid value players important. Done well in some cases, but too many, too often just not good enough. Our hit rate not impressive and we are paying the price. I recall that during the summer we were reportedly in competition with Wycombe for midfielder Tyreeq Bakinson but were unable to compete with his wage demands. I think RW mentioned it in one of his early season interviews when he was commenting on the amount of money that was being spent by League One clubs. I wonder if that has rankled with him and led to his comment on Saturday about Wycombe having a Board “ that backs its manager”? |
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Post by redshank on Oct 29, 2024 10:40:06 GMT
What someone has recently posted the Wycombe board can afford to back the manager.They have billions.
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Post by tattyfilarious on Oct 29, 2024 10:45:45 GMT
One statement on the podcast which is very true from all I have heard was that Richie agrees to sign all the players. Blaming Ling is at best, misplaced. Though I wonder whether he may have suggested Perkins as he knew him?
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Post by dohnut on Oct 29, 2024 13:52:20 GMT
One statement on the podcast which is very true from all I have heard was that Richie agrees to sign all the players. Blaming Ling is at best, misplaced. Though I wonder whether he may have suggested Perkins as he knew him? Propaganda in action perhaps? I think in general the manager chooses from the group of players the DoF and his team put forward, these being those the club/DoF feel they can afford. So if RW wants a CM with specific attributes (tall, left footer, young, experienced etc) he will then be presented with a selection after the DoF and his team have done the leg work. The managers choice is either not sign anyone or choose from those presented. So he agrees to sign, don’t mean they really match what he wants. This process was explained at length a few years ago on our local radio by the then Southampton DoF. He made it absolutely clear players in and out, whilst taking the managers feeling into consideration, are geared towards what the club can afford and how they judge future values. After Jacket left, Travis commented he was given everything he asked for. Which in reality meant he was offered the chance to choose from those names the DoF put forward. To my mind saying he got everything he wanted is technically correct, but not really meeting the managers demands by some way. I suspect the same largely happens with RW. He is getting bodies but not the ones he wants. RW is making the best out of those people offered by the DoF and his team based on finances and future deals. So who really is deciding on the squad? |
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Post by redintheface on Oct 29, 2024 15:32:03 GMT
One statement on the podcast which is very true from all I have heard was that Richie agrees to sign all the players. Blaming Ling is at best, misplaced. Though I wonder whether he may have suggested Perkins as he knew him? Propaganda in action perhaps? I think in general the manager chooses from the group of players the DoF and his team put forward, these being those the club/DoF feel they can afford. So if RW wants a CM with specific attributes (tall, left footer, young, experienced etc) he will then be presented with a selection after the DoF and his team have done the leg work. The managers choice is either not sign anyone or choose from those presented. So he agrees to sign, don’t mean they really match what he wants. This process was explained at length a few years ago on our local radio by the then Southampton DoF. He made it absolutely clear players in and out, whilst taking the managers feeling into consideration, are geared towards what the club can afford and how they judge future values. After Jacket left, Travis commented he was given everything he asked for. Which in reality meant he was offered the chance to choose from those names the DoF put forward. To my mind saying he got everything he wanted is technically correct, but not really meeting the managers demands by some way. I suspect the same largely happens with RW. He is getting bodies but not the ones he wants. RW is making the best out of those people offered by the DoF and his team based on finances and future deals. So who really is deciding on the squad? Your point about Jackett is well made. I don’t think even his harshest critics could say what he was presented with in terms of incoming players during the January 2022 window was in anyway “ what he wanted”. I am sure there are similar issues that RW is currently trying to deal with. |
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Post by redshank on Oct 29, 2024 16:05:22 GMT
What manager is ever satisfied with the players they have.Name 17.
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Post by mayland0s on Oct 29, 2024 16:24:36 GMT
One statement on the podcast which is very true from all I have heard was that Richie agrees to sign all the players. Blaming Ling is at best, misplaced. Though I wonder whether he may have suggested Perkins as he knew him? Propaganda in action perhaps? I think in general the manager chooses from the group of players the DoF and his team put forward, these being those the club/DoF feel they can afford. So if RW wants a CM with specific attributes (tall, left footer, young, experienced etc) he will then be presented with a selection after the DoF and his team have done the leg work. The managers choice is either not sign anyone or choose from those presented. So he agrees to sign, don’t mean they really match what he wants. This process was explained at length a few years ago on our local radio by the then Southampton DoF. He made it absolutely clear players in and out, whilst taking the managers feeling into consideration, are geared towards what the club can afford and how they judge future values. After Jacket left, Travis commented he was given everything he asked for. Which in reality meant he was offered the chance to choose from those names the DoF put forward. To my mind saying he got everything he wanted is technically correct, but not really meeting the managers demands by some way. I suspect the same largely happens with RW. He is getting bodies but not the ones he wants. RW is making the best out of those people offered by the DoF and his team based on finances and future deals. So who really is deciding on the squad? RW knew exactly the situation and his budget when he signed his contract . |
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Post by redshank on Oct 29, 2024 16:29:59 GMT
Up to RW then to make the best of a pretty decent team.
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Post by dohnut on Oct 29, 2024 16:36:44 GMT
What manager is ever satisfied with the players they have.Name 17. I think that’s true from the Premiership downwards. Is any manager ever fully satisfied in any business. Rare. But there are degrees of satisfaction. I just wonder how satisfied he is with our reality after signing a new deal and moving his family. I just hope he pulls off a minor miracle with those he has to work with. We need some luck. |
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Post by dohnut on Oct 29, 2024 16:39:31 GMT
Propaganda in action perhaps? I think in general the manager chooses from the group of players the DoF and his team put forward, these being those the club/DoF feel they can afford. So if RW wants a CM with specific attributes (tall, left footer, young, experienced etc) he will then be presented with a selection after the DoF and his team have done the leg work. The managers choice is either not sign anyone or choose from those presented. So he agrees to sign, don’t mean they really match what he wants. This process was explained at length a few years ago on our local radio by the then Southampton DoF. He made it absolutely clear players in and out, whilst taking the managers feeling into consideration, are geared towards what the club can afford and how they judge future values. After Jacket left, Travis commented he was given everything he asked for. Which in reality meant he was offered the chance to choose from those names the DoF put forward. To my mind saying he got everything he wanted is technically correct, but not really meeting the managers demands by some way. I suspect the same largely happens with RW. He is getting bodies but not the ones he wants. RW is making the best out of those people offered by the DoF and his team based on finances and future deals. So who really is deciding on the squad? RW knew exactly the situation and his budget when he signed his contract . It’s how the money has been spent that counts. |
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Post by redshank on Oct 29, 2024 16:55:40 GMT
Are you saying RW cannot say no,he seems too confident to keep quiet,not in a cocky way but knowing when to say no.
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Post by buffalobill on Oct 29, 2024 17:40:57 GMT
One statement on the podcast which is very true from all I have heard was that Richie agrees to sign all the players. Blaming Ling is at best, misplaced. Though I wonder whether he may have suggested Perkins as he knew him? Propaganda in action perhaps? I think in general the manager chooses from the group of players the DoF and his team put forward, these being those the club/DoF feel they can afford. So if RW wants a CM with specific attributes (tall, left footer, young, experienced etc) he will then be presented with a selection after the DoF and his team have done the leg work. The managers choice is either not sign anyone or choose from those presented. So he agrees to sign, don’t mean they really match what he wants. This process was explained at length a few years ago on our local radio by the then Southampton DoF. He made it absolutely clear players in and out, whilst taking the managers feeling into consideration, are geared towards what the club can afford and how they judge future values. After Jacket left, Travis commented he was given everything he asked for. Which in reality meant he was offered the chance to choose from those names the DoF put forward. To my mind saying he got everything he wanted is technically correct, but not really meeting the managers demands by some way. I suspect the same largely happens with RW. He is getting bodies but not the ones he wants. RW is making the best out of those people offered by the DoF and his team based on finances and future deals. So who really is deciding on the squad? Those that put their money in, the board? Indirectly perhaps, but they set the parameters for how we look at deals. |
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