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Post by northeasto on Mar 7, 2021 13:26:49 GMT
Let’s not forget that Ekpiteka, who has gone on to better things, and a number of very ropey games, especially at the start of last season
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Post by harlowo on Mar 7, 2021 14:14:15 GMT
He is out of contract this summer and I’ll be very surprised if West Ham offer him a new one I would definitely try to sign him if he does get released.
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Post by MungO on Mar 7, 2021 15:03:34 GMT
I'm indifferent on Akinola.
I suppose considering the lack of experience he looks no better or worse than our own experienced defenders. So I guess there is that potential.
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Post by Ramrod on Mar 7, 2021 15:45:14 GMT
West Ham will release Akinola on a free at the end of the season.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 7, 2021 18:05:05 GMT
I’’d love us to get him. Over-rated? Not at all. He was excellent playing in his favoured CB position and good when switched to RB. Calm on the ball, decent in the tackle, able to carry the ball forward and can put in a decent cross.
At League 2 level, even League 1 He is good enough. People forget how few senior games he has had. He will continue to get better.
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Post by harlowo on Mar 7, 2021 18:35:05 GMT
I’’d love us to get him. Over-rated? Not at all. He was excellent playing in his favoured CB position and good when switched to RB. Calm on the ball, decent in the tackle, able to carry the ball forward and can put in a decent cross. At League 2 level, even League 1 He is good enough. People forget how few senior games he has had. He will continue to get better. Spot on dohnut He would be one of my first choice centre half’s.
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Post by disoriented on Mar 7, 2021 20:39:14 GMT
He is out of contract this summer and I’ll be very surprised if West Ham offer him a new one I would definitely try to sign him if he does get released. Yes he has done enough to earn that.
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Post by osoldest on Mar 7, 2021 22:57:23 GMT
Sorry, I just don’t get this adulation of akinola and I think the fact that he has been loaned from a premiership club is clouding peoples judgment. When does he make last ditch tackles, when does he dominate the player he is marking. I’ve seen numerous examples of him losing his man and having to be rescued by Happe or one of the other central defenders. He is just ordinary and would join the list of ordinary players we have signed in the last couple of years . Ekpiteta came from non league but it was obvious that he had something about him , I don’t see that with akinola.
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Post by Fisch on Mar 8, 2021 4:18:43 GMT
Poor old Marvin, it looks like his season is pretty much done due to a nasty hamstring injury. I noticed he tweeted about Jobi's appointment.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 8, 2021 7:10:04 GMT
Sorry, I just don’t get this adulation of akinola and I think the fact that he has been loaned from a premiership club is clouding peoples judgment. When does he make last ditch tackles, when does he dominate the player he is marking. I’ve seen numerous examples of him losing his man and having to be rescued by Happe or one of the other central defenders. He is just ordinary and would join the list of ordinary players we have signed in the last couple of years . Ekpiteta came from non league but it was obvious that he had something about him , I don’t see that with akinola. I liked Marvin but he too got caught out, it happens, even in the prem. sometimes you got to give credit to the opposition. Maybe Akinola doesn’t make as many last ditch tackles because he has positioned himself so he doesn’t have to all the time. He is very mobile. But we all like different attributes in players, so fair enough if he doesn’t fit your particular ideals. Very few players get universal acclaim. Let’s just agree we see and like different things. You don’t like what you see, others the reverse.
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Post by refugee on Mar 8, 2021 8:09:29 GMT
Sorry, I just don’t get this adulation of akinola and I think the fact that he has been loaned from a premiership club is clouding peoples judgment. When does he make last ditch tackles, when does he dominate the player he is marking. I’ve seen numerous examples of him losing his man and having to be rescued by Happe or one of the other central defenders. He is just ordinary and would join the list of ordinary players we have signed in the last couple of years . Ekpiteta came from non league but it was obvious that he had something about him , I don’t see that with akinola. This is a joke isn’t it. It’s either a joke or you don’t know much about football. He’s vastly overrated because he isn’t making last ditch tackles or dominating someone he’s marking. Alright. Give 1 example of the famously lacking in pace Dan Happe having to rescue Akinola.
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Post by harlowo on Mar 8, 2021 8:38:26 GMT
Like someone else said maybe he doesn’t have to make last ditch tackles because his positioning is good and he reads the game better. I agree Saturday he had a shocker. Sometimes with those last ditch tackles you can miss time them which results in a red card we have seen that this season.
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Post by redintheface on Mar 8, 2021 8:42:31 GMT
Dan Happe seems to be the target of a lot of criticism lately. I really don’t get it . Personally I think he’s a good player and one who we should make all reasonable efforts to keep. Akinola certainly appeared to play better when at centre back but he was touted as a “ full back / centre back” when he was brought in from West Ham so he should be reasonably comfortable there. Like several others he had a very poor game Saturday and whilst that in itself doesn’t mean he’s “ordinary” , I’ve not yet seen anything about him that would single him out as being any better than either Happe or Ekpiteta
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Post by MungO on Mar 8, 2021 8:50:40 GMT
Akinola, Happe, whoever. They all have mistakes in them.
I don't really see any stand out players in our entire team and nor do I see anyone that is miles behind the others.
Collectively they aren't being assembled in the right way or with the right mindset. No idea why.
I think all of our players with better players around them would look better. I also think our players with worse around them would be dragged down.
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Post by harlowo on Mar 8, 2021 9:00:28 GMT
I think Happe has had criticism because this season he had been pretty average having said that I would try to keep him in the summer because he is a decent League 2 defender. I don’t really see him improving too much with some of his weaknesses. He won’t get any quicker and I can’t see his right foot getting any better now. But he can definitely improve on his marking and positioning maybe the coaching isn’t good enough. If we had Happe,Thompson,Akinola next season I wouldn’t be too disappointed.
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Post by Fisch on Mar 8, 2021 9:04:53 GMT
If we had Happe,Thompson,Akinola next season I wouldn’t be too disappointed. As probably Happe's biggest critic, l also wouldn't be "too disappointed" but I doubt it would be a promotion quality rearguard.
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Post by northeasto on Mar 8, 2021 10:51:00 GMT
Sorry, I just don’t get this adulation of akinola and I think the fact that he has been loaned from a premiership club is clouding peoples judgment. When does he make last ditch tackles, when does he dominate the player he is marking. I’ve seen numerous examples of him losing his man and having to be rescued by Happe or one of the other central defenders. He is just ordinary and would join the list of ordinary players we have signed in the last couple of years . Ekpiteta came from non league but it was obvious that he had something about him , I don’t see that with akinola. This is a joke isn’t it. It’s either a joke or you don’t know much about football. He’s vastly overrated because he isn’t making last ditch tackles or dominating someone he’s marking. Alright. Give 1 example of the famously lacking in pace Dan Happe having to rescue Akinola. Oh dear! I didn’t realise being knowledgeable about football was required to post here. I may have to leave😞. At least I won’t be the only one...
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Post by redshank on Mar 8, 2021 12:35:45 GMT
Surely we cannot be too critical of division two players.As much as I want us to be in it,with the intent of getting out upwards,it is a dog of a division to play in.Those in the bottom row this season could be the promotion winners next season. Match to match,unless over a sustained number of games it is hard to asses a decent player.Form is inexplicable,who has the answer to that.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 8, 2021 13:33:31 GMT
Like someone else said maybe he doesn’t have to make last ditch tackles because his positioning is good and he reads the game better. I agree Saturday he had a shocker. Sometimes with those last ditch tackles you can miss time them which results in a red card we have seen that this season. Got to agree, he had a shocker on Saturday, pretty much like most of the others. It happens. But that don’t make him a bad player, just a good player having a bad game. I like him. Hope we sign him. Getting Kemp gives me hope that it’s not impossible to pick up decent young players who perhaps are not Premier quality. Was hoping we would pick up Marsh for the same reason.
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Post by dohnut on Mar 8, 2021 13:36:26 GMT
This is a joke isn’t it. It’s either a joke or you don’t know much about football. He’s vastly overrated because he isn’t making last ditch tackles or dominating someone he’s marking. Alright. Give 1 example of the famously lacking in pace Dan Happe having to rescue Akinola. Oh dear! I didn’t realise being knowledgeable about football was required to post here. I may have to leave😞. At least I won’t be the only one... I’m sure that comment came across a lot stronger than intended. 👍 Football is about opinions, sometimes we disagree. Be boring if we agreed all the time, that don’t take the discussion forward.
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