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Post by Thor on Jul 16, 2024 20:15:19 GMT
8 subs now being made Monks is now captain.
Judd seems to be half a stone too heavy and a yard slower than when he played for us.
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Post by mujtahido on Jul 16, 2024 20:23:37 GMT
Dan Agyei on fire again albeit in a meaningless friendly but he's gonna be massive this season
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Post by Thor on Jul 16, 2024 20:36:35 GMT
It's all a bit frantic second half. Byrne just made a top top save from a shot curing into the top corner tipping it over for a corner.
Chindu has gone off injured, showed a cramp but watching him walk its more likely hamstring. He has impressed me tonight.
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Post by Thor on Jul 16, 2024 20:37:34 GMT
Our right back tried to take on their winger on the edge of our box, got tackled and they've equalised in the 89th min with the keeper well beaten.
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Post by Thor on Jul 16, 2024 20:38:43 GMT
1-1 full time
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Post by dohnut on Jul 16, 2024 20:43:45 GMT
Fitness levels improving and hopefully no injuries. Good workouts tonight and the academy players get some time too. All good.
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Post by dennisrofe on Jul 16, 2024 21:08:03 GMT
Thank you Thor for your minute by minute match commentary. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Jul 16, 2024 21:10:27 GMT
8 subs now being made Monks is now captain. Judd seems to be half a stone too heavy and a yard slower than when he played for us. Judd, what a waste of talent, he was such a prospect and is still fairly young. |
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Post by dohnut on Jul 16, 2024 21:48:16 GMT
8 subs now being made Monks is now captain. Judd seems to be half a stone too heavy and a yard slower than when he played for us. Judd, what a waste of talent, he was such a prospect and is still fairly young. Got a raw deal. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Jul 16, 2024 21:55:14 GMT
Judd, what a waste of talent, he was such a prospect and is still fairly young. Got a raw deal. I agree, seemed to me that he got pushed out in favour of Sam Ling. Thing is, if he still wants to make it, if injury free then with determination and dedication, then he can still make it. |
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Post by eca on Jul 16, 2024 22:56:43 GMT
I agree, seemed to me that he got pushed out in favour of Sam Ling. Thing is, if he still wants to make it, if injury free then with determination and dedication, then he can still make it. Could he not be signed as a back up and get fully fit - he may have the ability for that role. Ling in one interview questioned his attitude but if he still years later playing ( semi pro ? ) and assuming holding down a traditional employee position there can’t be much wrong with his attitude can there. In some ways a semi pro must be harder due to motivation / economic / time management for training and working. |
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Post by Ramrod on Jul 17, 2024 5:40:20 GMT
Judd, what a waste of talent, he was such a prospect and is still fairly young. Got a raw deal. Didn't get a raw deal, just wasn't up to it. |
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Post by Thor on Jul 17, 2024 6:10:52 GMT
Judd didn't play badly either, got roasted (pace) once by a youngster, but other than that you could see he is a level above the rest of the players in his team. You could have put him in our team and his touch, body shape and passing would not have been out of place.
I agree with a previous post, if he got himself fit then I can't see anything which could stop him playing higher than he is. Not sure what he does for a job, but he's probably on £800 a week maybe slightly less. Suddenly with two salaries being a pro doesn't seems so appealing at the lower end of the market.
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Post by dohnut on Jul 17, 2024 6:41:39 GMT
I agree, seemed to me that he got pushed out in favour of Sam Ling. Thing is, if he still wants to make it, if injury free then with determination and dedication, then he can still make it. Could he not be signed as a back up and get fully fit - he may have the ability for that role. Ling in one interview questioned his attitude but if he still years later playing ( semi pro ? ) and assuming holding down a traditional employee position there can’t be much wrong with his attitude can there. In some ways a semi pro must be harder due to motivation / economic / time management for training and working. In the interview Ling did more than simply question his attitude. Some ugly comments, poorly chosen at a time when Judd was in direct competition with Ling’s son, Sam for a place in the first team. What motivated that outburst is anyone’s guess. Judd’s EFL career which started with his debut for us as a 16 year old, was gone, never recovered. Not much later Sam found his level back in the NL. Judd by some way was the better, more aggressive and energetic player at that time. Potential was there. A raw kid that needed guiding, not destroying. |
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Post by Thor on Jul 17, 2024 7:04:18 GMT
Could he not be signed as a back up and get fully fit - he may have the ability for that role. Ling in one interview questioned his attitude but if he still years later playing ( semi pro ? ) and assuming holding down a traditional employee position there can’t be much wrong with his attitude can there. In some ways a semi pro must be harder due to motivation / economic / time management for training and working. In the interview Ling did more than simply question his attitude. Some ugly comments, poorly chosen at a time when Judd was in direct competition with Ling’s son, Sam for a place in the first team. What motivated that outburst is anyone’s guess. Judd’s EFL career which started with his debut for us as a 16 year old, was gone, never recovered. Not much later Sam found his level back in the NL. Judd by some way was the better, more aggressive and energetic player at that time. Potential was there. A raw kid that needed guiding, not destroying. bang on the money. |
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Post by mayland0s on Jul 17, 2024 7:28:54 GMT
I agree, seemed to me that he got pushed out in favour of Sam Ling. Thing is, if he still wants to make it, if injury free then with determination and dedication, then he can still make it. Rubbish , he was never good enough . |
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Post by Thor on Jul 17, 2024 7:30:36 GMT
I agree, seemed to me that he got pushed out in favour of Sam Ling. Thing is, if he still wants to make it, if injury free then with determination and dedication, then he can still make it. Rubbish , he was never good enough . look at the stats when he was in the team. Then look at juniors stats and you will see what team performed better with what player. It's not even close either. A truer case of nepotism you'll ever see. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Jul 17, 2024 7:47:53 GMT
Could he not be signed as a back up and get fully fit - he may have the ability for that role. Ling in one interview questioned his attitude but if he still years later playing ( semi pro ? ) and assuming holding down a traditional employee position there can’t be much wrong with his attitude can there. In some ways a semi pro must be harder due to motivation / economic / time management for training and working. In the interview Ling did more than simply question his attitude. Some ugly comments, poorly chosen at a time when Judd was in direct competition with Ling’s son, Sam for a place in the first team. What motivated that outburst is anyone’s guess. Judd’s EFL career which started with his debut for us as a 16 year old, was gone, never recovered. Not much later Sam found his level back in the NL. Judd by some way was the better, more aggressive and energetic player at that time. Potential was there. A raw kid that needed guiding, not destroying. 110% agree !
I always liked Judd and thought he could perhaps even become a right back version of ''Dennis Rofe'' Fast and enthusiastic, he had far more potential than Sam Ling. YES agree '' Potential was there. A raw kid that needed guiding, not destroying''
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 17, 2024 7:59:51 GMT
Talent and potential only take you so far.
If he had the discipline and determination to make it, he would have found a way back into football at a higher level.
Anyway this is all old news and raking over the coals time and time again is so boring.
It is what it is, let’s focus on the present not the past.
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Post by eca on Jul 17, 2024 7:59:54 GMT
Rubbish , he was never good enough . look at the stats when he was in the team. Then look at juniors stats and you will see what team performed better with what player. It's not even close either. A truer case of nepotism you'll ever see. To me that episode followed by the Russ saga really prejudiced my opinion to Ling for a long time. Then there was the meeting with Ling and I not sure if Jackett was there too, but I clearly remember Ling demonstrating that he was above Jackett in the way he used words to describe how the clubs management is answerable. That peed me off because it was not really needed. Jackett had also a superior mangers record over a long time at a few clubs. There were other Ling interviews where he used poor quality of language and at times spoke inappropriately and used words like “get rid” when describing offloading players - that I found rather degrading. However over the last few years he has improved in his interviews and I find him acceptable. He has done well over a long time and one has to respect that - he also has demonstrated compassion in some words too. Maybe he has just improved as a person now . |
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