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Post by SW O on Aug 3, 2024 21:37:17 GMT
Is there any news on Jordan Graham?
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Post by inah on Aug 3, 2024 21:42:37 GMT
Is there any news on Jordan Graham? Out for 10 days with an Achilles injury, Richie sees him as an impact sub for the first few weeks of the season. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 3, 2024 22:06:01 GMT
In my opinion our squad, whilst good, lacks depth. Theo out for a few more months, Graham out, then an impact sub, Simpson short term but lacking fitness. Is Moncur match fit? Will Pratley be up to lots of games? Are we expecting too much from the kids!
Lots of games in the first 8 weeks. A couple of decent loans would not go amiss, even if just to take the pressure off in the cup games or come on a subs. We are putting a lot of hope on a few players. Hope it works.
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Post by Fisch on Aug 4, 2024 6:19:12 GMT
Wot donut said ...
We're too thin on the ground and it looks like Bullas, Pegrum, Perkins etc., and going to be called upon to play near full roles to provide the necessary support. We're already a bit young overall with Kelman, Obiero, Sweeney, O'Neill.
This is going to be a struggle, we can't compete with so many teams who have a full complement of seasoned and highly valued professionals.
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Post by inah on Aug 4, 2024 7:05:39 GMT
Wot donut said ... We're too thin on the ground and it looks like Bullas, Pegrum, Perkins etc., and going to be called upon to play near full roles to provide the necessary support. We're already a bit young overall with Kelman, Obiero, Sweeney, O'Neill. This is going to be a struggle, we can't compete with so many teams who have a full complement of seasoned and highly valued professionals. Everyone at the club knows that this is a year of consolidation, I expect a finish of around 15th-18th. We are playing a very smart game as new FFP rules kick in for the league next season and other clubs in our division next season will be going on a bit of a fire sale, we will be in much stronger position now if we don't go all out this season The important business we can do right now is tie Galbraith and Agyei down for a few more years then ride out the storm. |
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Post by Fisch on Aug 4, 2024 7:31:06 GMT
I like your thinking Inah
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Post by dohnut on Aug 4, 2024 8:46:42 GMT
Wot donut said ... We're too thin on the ground and it looks like Bullas, Pegrum, Perkins etc., and going to be called upon to play near full roles to provide the necessary support. We're already a bit young overall with Kelman, Obiero, Sweeney, O'Neill. This is going to be a struggle, we can't compete with so many teams who have a full complement of seasoned and highly valued professionals. Everyone at the club knows that this is a year of consolidation, I expect a finish of around 15th-18th. We are playing a very smart game as new FFP rules kick in for the league next season and other clubs in our division next season will be going on a bit of a fire sale, we will be in much stronger position now if we don't go all out this season The important business we can do right now is tie Galbraith and Agyei down for a few more years then ride out the storm. This season is definitely one of continuing to consolidate.15th/18th I see as a decent campaign. Though hope for higher. If we can tie a couple of key players down, that would be great. But why would they extend? In 10 months they can go elsewhere for free and negotiate good personal deals. Their choice, not ours. In their position I would not be extending. But let’s hope. Bit strange to suggest we are the only club to consider rule changes. Other clubs too are run by savvy, successful business people who, like us, will understand short, medium and long term planning. Can I suggest other clubs too have smart, forward thinking owners. We are not unique. The real question is are we good enough to consolidate this season when looking at some real aggressive activity elsewhere? Are our young players good enough? Do we have sufficient depth to cater for the inevitable situations? I sincerely hope so. The teams that go down this season will be good teams and I don’t want us to be one of them. Don’t think we will be. I’m reasonably optimistic. |
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Post by Thor on Aug 4, 2024 9:57:10 GMT
Wot donut said ... We're too thin on the ground and it looks like Bullas, Pegrum, Perkins etc., and going to be called upon to play near full roles to provide the necessary support. We're already a bit young overall with Kelman, Obiero, Sweeney, O'Neill. This is going to be a struggle, we can't compete with so many teams who have a full complement of seasoned and highly valued professionals. Everyone at the club knows that this is a year of consolidation, I expect a finish of around 15th-18th. We are playing a very smart game as new FFP rules kick in for the league next season and other clubs in our division next season will be going on a bit of a fire sale, we will be in much stronger position now if we don't go all out this season The important business we can do right now is tie Galbraith and Agyei down for a few more years then ride out the storm. Can you expand on why we will benefit whilst other clubs will suffer? What the big change you are talking about? Thanks. |
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Post by tommydark on Aug 4, 2024 10:21:24 GMT
Can't see Galbraith and DA signing extensions sadly
Both know they are a league above us
We would be wise to do a Peterborough and list them once the window closes
I hate the idea,,but hate the thought them both walking and we get nought
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Post by inah on Aug 4, 2024 11:26:05 GMT
Everyone at the club knows that this is a year of consolidation, I expect a finish of around 15th-18th. We are playing a very smart game as new FFP rules kick in for the league next season and other clubs in our division next season will be going on a bit of a fire sale, we will be in much stronger position now if we don't go all out this season The important business we can do right now is tie Galbraith and Agyei down for a few more years then ride out the storm. Can you expand on why we will benefit whilst other clubs will suffer? What the big change you are talking about? Thanks. I believe it's about what money can be used for the 60% wage rule, there's some murky loopholes that are about to be shut that will stop money being pumped into a club without being "earned". On top of this I think agents fees and bonus are going to be added to FFP as right now in League One only the 60% wage rule is in place (you get a 15% benefit on wages in your first season after relegation) As an example Burtons rebuild would never be allowed to happen next season as they have spent a lot of money on agents and bonus heavy contracts I think we will benefit as the league will be much more competitive, for example Birmingham are a big club and they have a lot of profit coming in but that even with those attendances it's financial unfair that they have spent 20 Million on transfer fees alone, that doesn't include wages, agents fees and bonuses. Teams like Orient, Lincoln and Wycombe have been smart this window by working with next seasons restrictions. Richie mentions a little about this in his interview post D&R |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 4, 2024 12:25:35 GMT
Fair play rules run over a 3 year consecutive period. And loopholes will continue. Clubs are fully aware of this and factor it in. Mostly
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Post by inah on Aug 4, 2024 12:40:24 GMT
Fair play rules run over a 3 year consecutive period. And loopholes will continue. Clubs are fully aware of this and factor it in. Mostly I believe some of these are delayed rule changes and will kick in straight away next season, I also believe closing the commercial loopholes will affect clubs the most, lots of ghost companies with no presence online are "investing" in English football clubs and The Football League have wised up to it. There are a lot of gambling sponsors on shirts, when you go to the website you get a page that says "coming soon" .... Who remembers EnergyBet. Of course these rule changes are not going to make us serious challenges next season but it will help to make the league more competitive and highlights the need for us to move to a new stadium with a bigger capacity and more commercial opportunities. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 4, 2024 14:28:43 GMT
Fair play rules run over a 3 year consecutive period. And loopholes will continue. Clubs are fully aware of this and factor it in. Mostly I believe some of these are delayed rule changes and will kick in straight away next season, I also believe closing the commercial loopholes will affect clubs the most, lots of ghost companies with no presence online are "investing" in English football clubs and The Football League have wised up to it. There are a lot of gambling sponsors on shirts, when you go to the website you get a page that says "coming soon" .... Who remembers EnergyBet. Of course these rule changes are not going to make us serious challenges next season but it will help to make the league more competitive and highlights the need for us to move to a new stadium with a bigger capacity and more commercial opportunities. Your knowledge on this is greater than mine but as they stand we will be limited due to turnover. The bigger clubs have far more opportunity. Not really fare! But there has to be rules. |
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Post by redintheface on Aug 4, 2024 16:30:24 GMT
Thanks for you feedback mate it was greatly appreciated 🤣 Always looking to help!😀👍 |
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 5, 2024 8:46:46 GMT
Can you expand on why we will benefit whilst other clubs will suffer? What the big change you are talking about? Thanks. I believe it's about what money can be used for the 60% wage rule, there's some murky loopholes that are about to be shut that will stop money being pumped into a club without being "earned". On top of this I think agents fees and bonus are going to be added to FFP as right now in League One only the 60% wage rule is in place (you get a 15% benefit on wages in your first season after relegation) As an example Burtons rebuild would never be allowed to happen next season as they have spent a lot of money on agents and bonus heavy contracts I think we will benefit as the league will be much more competitive, for example Birmingham are a big club and they have a lot of profit coming in but that even with those attendances it's financial unfair that they have spent 20 Million on transfer fees alone, that doesn't include wages, agents fees and bonuses. Teams like Orient, Lincoln and Wycombe have been smart this window by working with next seasons restrictions. Richie mentions a little about this in his interview post D&R Meanwhile wonder what the verdict ( if it ever happens ? ) will be on the Man City FFP saga. |
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Post by billericayo on Aug 5, 2024 9:06:02 GMT
Is there any news on Jordan Graham? Out for 10 days with an Achilles injury, Richie sees him as an impact sub for the first few weeks of the season. Once we get him fit, get rid of him, he's not gonna get stuck in, wants other people to do the work for him, he just wants to stay wide and chuck some crosses in, crossing the ball is basic any footballer should be able to do that. |
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Post by Nick312 on Aug 5, 2024 9:16:57 GMT
Out for 10 days with an Achilles injury, Richie sees him as an impact sub for the first few weeks of the season. Once we get him fit, get rid of him, he's not gonna get stuck in, wants other people to do the work for him, he just wants to stay wide and chuck some crosses in, crossing the ball is basic any footballer should be able to do that. He seems to have generated a lot of discussion on this forum and yet how many games has he played? Less than O'Neill. This latest injury seems to have been "inevitable". What happens when he plays his first few games, gets a knock and we're back to discussing him again. I think Billericayo has a point. |
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Post by redintheface on Aug 5, 2024 9:45:26 GMT
The biggest concern to me about Graham was Wellens saying in his interview that Graham’s injury has to be managed because “ he could break down at any time” . That doesn’t sound too promising if the O’s are trying to get in the region of 40 appearances out him this season!
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Post by gizmo56 on Aug 5, 2024 10:13:32 GMT
He has only played 30+ matches once in his career. If we can get anything over 2,000 minutes we will be doing well. Over 3,000 and a bonus to the strenght and conditioning team!
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Post by dennisrofe on Aug 5, 2024 10:18:38 GMT
The biggest concern to me about Graham was Wellens saying in his interview that Graham’s injury has to be managed because “ he could break down at any time” . That doesn’t sound too promising if the O’s are trying to get in the region of 40 appearances out him this season! In recent comments, Dohnut went a bit overboard about Jordon Graham, rating him very highly and better than Paul Smyth ?
We shall see on that one, but In comparison between the two players, I myself much prefer the promotion season Paul Smyth to what Jordan Graham has to offer. We shall see and I hope I am wrong but I see Graham as a winger who will mostly be more of an impact player off the bench who has an injury record which means as you wrote quoting Wellins.....'' he has to be managed because “ he could break down at any time”
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