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Post by redintheface on Aug 31, 2024 15:04:03 GMT
I’d say this was the transfer window where we could have made a statement and been playoff contenders, however the disaster it looks so far has made us relegation fodder Why would you have said that? We had half a million to spend and the choice was better players or better toilets. The decision makes itself! I think we all recognise that in our current situation upgrading the toilets at the club was essential!😆😆👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2024 15:23:39 GMT
Why would you have said that? We had half a million to spend and the choice was better players or better toilets. The decision makes itself! I think we all recognise that in our current situation upgrading the toilets at the club was essential!😆😆👍 Keep those sheets nice and dry. Wee at the stadium. |
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Post by redintheface on Aug 31, 2024 15:26:10 GMT
I think we all recognise that in our current situation upgrading the toilets at the club was essential!😆😆👍 Keep those sheets nice and dry. Wee at the stadium. The cubicles will be getting plenty of use next week if we lose today!😆 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2024 15:36:07 GMT
Keep those sheets nice and dry. Wee at the stadium. The cubicles will be getting plenty of use next week if we lose today!😆 Doubt there'll be anyone there to use em 😅 |
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Post by Thor on Aug 31, 2024 16:58:51 GMT
Richie made it clear what players he wanted time and time again. Even just last week he said, I want a wide player and a strong experienced central player. So we bring in a Keeper and a left back. Was Richie lying or is he being ignored by ling? This window has been a shambles which was on top of another shambles last January. Why are the same people being allowed to make the same mistakes without any consequences!
Ling failed at this level as a manager, maybe he’s failing as a dof at this level as he’s not giving his manager the tools he requires to do anything. If the club wants to tread water then we will lose the manager. Last Jan with the right backing he’d have given us a better opportunity to make the play offs, instead he brings in rubbish and we finished the season knackered and flat.
Nigel needs to get a grip and quick.
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Post by dohnut on Aug 31, 2024 17:03:00 GMT
I’d say this was the transfer window where we could have made a statement and been playoff contenders, however the disaster it looks so far has made us relegation fodder Why would you have said that? We had half a million to spend and the choice was better players or better toilets. The decision makes itself! The decision to have two player out on loan, paying part of their salary is scandalous. We should have retained Moncur. Our midfield is weak, no creativity, no stability. |
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Post by Thor on Aug 31, 2024 17:10:40 GMT
Why would you have said that? We had half a million to spend and the choice was better players or better toilets. The decision makes itself! The decision to have two player out on loan, paying part of their salary is scandalous. We should have retained Moncur. Our midfield is weak, no creativity, no stability. I make you right. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 31, 2024 17:19:41 GMT
Richie made it clear what players he wanted time and time again. Even just last week he said, I want a wide player and a strong experienced central player. So we bring in a Keeper and a left back. Was Richie lying or is he being ignored by ling? This window has been a shambles which was on top of another shambles last January. Why are the same people being allowed to make the same mistakes without any consequences! Ling failed at this level as a manager, maybe he’s failing as a dof at this level as he’s not giving his manager the tools he requires to do anything. If the club wants to tread water then we will lose the manager. Last Jan with the right backing he’d have given us a better opportunity to make the play offs, instead he brings in rubbish and we finished the season knackered and flat. Nigel needs to get a grip and quick. We all know that Thor. I gave up listening to what RW says about players because it ain’t going to happen. Not his fault either. RW knows budgets, don’t think for one second he would go on about wanting players he knows we can’t afford, that would make him dishonest and I don’t believe for one second that’s his style. Honest to a fault. Ling is calling the shots and the players we bring in. RW is loyal enough to portray the company position. Privately I bet he is seething. He has been let down. Ling has moved up to a level where he lacks competence to do the job. Nigel is too into Ling, won’t do anything. |
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Post by Thor on Aug 31, 2024 17:26:16 GMT
Get rid of ling, give Richie control and let him live or die by his decisions.
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Post by osoldguy on Aug 31, 2024 18:08:40 GMT
Get rid of ling, give Richie control and let him live or die by his decisions. If DoF dictated and advised the transfer committee that loan deals was the way forward than ithink it was mistaken. But if the club are losing 3 mill a year than no one unless it's money someone wants to lose before the Labour Trots get their hands on it will invest in the club. |
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Post by redintheface on Aug 31, 2024 18:30:21 GMT
Get rid of ling, give Richie control and let him live or die by his decisions. If DoF dictated and advised the transfer committee that loan deals was the way forward than ithink it was mistaken. But if the club are losing 3 mill a year than no one unless it's money someone wants to lose before the Labour Trots get their hands on it will invest in the club. Tbf I don’t think Ling is in a position to dictate anything. The fact that loan deals have become the “way forward” stems directly from the fact the Board either cannot or will not provide sufficient funds for us to compete in the transfer market as it currently stands, which ties Ling’s hands in terms of the pool of players he has to choose from. Whether or nort he gets the “ right” players from that pool is of course another and very different question.👍☕️ |
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Post by osoldguy on Aug 31, 2024 18:34:34 GMT
Why would you have said that? We had half a million to spend and the choice was better players or better toilets. The decision makes itself! The decision to have two player out on loan, paying part of their salary is scandalous. We should have retained Moncur. Our midfield is weak, no creativity, no stability. If the Os had done a Rotherham with player signing and taken a risk on Out of contract players that half a million could have been well spent on decent signing on fees and salaries. RW would have enhanced his reputation by managing difficult characters but talented players. |
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Post by mujtahido on Aug 31, 2024 19:11:28 GMT
I think it's the wages that is killing us at the moment.If it's true that Ruel is being paid around 5 grand a week at Bristol rovers snd they are by no means a big hitter in this league then it tells us all we need to know.Im grateful to the current owners for everything they have done and are doing but it seems football has now moved into a new era.You don't have to be rich to own a club and be successful you have to be super rich.Leaggue one is now almost championship standard compared to what it was ten years ago.At the moment we cannot compete with the majority of the clubs off the field and in football money talks.Lets hope the owners can identify someone who's capable of taking us to the next level
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Post by dohnut on Aug 31, 2024 20:09:19 GMT
I think it's the wages that is killing us at the moment.If it's true that Ruel is being paid around 5 grand a week at Bristol rovers snd they are by no means a big hitter in this league then it tells us all we need to know.Im grateful to the current owners for everything they have done and are doing but it seems football has now moved into a new era.You don't have to be rich to own a club and be successful you have to be super rich.Leaggue one is now almost championship standard compared to what it was ten years ago.At the moment we cannot compete with the majority of the clubs off the field and in football money talks.Lets hope the owners can identify someone who's capable of taking us to the next level If the wages are killing us, then why does Richie constantly talk about the numbers of players he needs and their positions? Not to mention the exciting players NT talked about. I get the finances, of course we all do, Our owners are being more than generous and it is appreciated. What I don’t get is the difference between the rhetoric and the reality. If we can’t afford what Richie wants, tell him so he (and NT) can moderate expectations. We do the best we can with current resources and don’t overdo objectives. Were OK where we are. Though I struggle with so much money being spent on the ground. Medium term benefit will be devalued if the team do badly and crowds drop. |
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Post by watfordo on Aug 31, 2024 20:21:42 GMT
Get rid of ling, give Richie control and let him live or die by his decisions. Ling is an asset. |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 31, 2024 20:42:25 GMT
Get rid of ling, give Richie control and let him live or die by his decisions. Ling is an asset. The Ling debate is pointless (bit like us), he is going nowhere, nothing will change. We need to move on from that debate. |
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Post by mayland0s on Aug 31, 2024 20:42:50 GMT
If DoF dictated and advised the transfer committee that loan deals was the way forward than ithink it was mistaken. But if the club are losing 3 mill a year than no one unless it's money someone wants to lose before the Labour Trots get their hands on it will invest in the club. Tbf I don’t think Ling is in a position to dictate anything. The fact that loan deals have become the “way forward” stems directly from the fact the Board either cannot or will not provide sufficient funds for us to compete in the transfer market as it currently stands, which ties Ling’s hands in terms of the pool of players he has to choose from. Whether or nort he gets the “ right” players from that pool is of course another and very different question.👍☕️ Good post red . |
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Post by dohnut on Aug 31, 2024 21:02:10 GMT
If DoF dictated and advised the transfer committee that loan deals was the way forward than ithink it was mistaken. But if the club are losing 3 mill a year than no one unless it's money someone wants to lose before the Labour Trots get their hands on it will invest in the club. Tbf I don’t think Ling is in a position to dictate anything. The fact that loan deals have become the “way forward” stems directly from the fact the Board either cannot or will not provide sufficient funds for us to compete in the transfer market as it currently stands, which ties Ling’s hands in terms of the pool of players he has to choose from. Whether or nort he gets the “ right” players from that pool is of course another and very different question.👍☕️ That being the case, and I’m not arguing the point, why does RW and even NT talk about incoming players as they do. I really have no issue with loans, the way it is now, nor do I expect our owners to spend even more than they generously do right now. I do wish the rhetoric from the club matched reality. Managing expectations in advance. |
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Post by osoldest on Aug 31, 2024 21:08:41 GMT
I thought that kid that shrewsbury loaned from Chelsea was miles better than the one we loaned from spurs, but it’s early days.
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Post by redintheface on Aug 31, 2024 21:13:54 GMT
Tbf I don’t think Ling is in a position to dictate anything. The fact that loan deals have become the “way forward” stems directly from the fact the Board either cannot or will not provide sufficient funds for us to compete in the transfer market as it currently stands, which ties Ling’s hands in terms of the pool of players he has to choose from. Whether or nort he gets the “ right” players from that pool is of course another and very different question.👍☕️ That being the case, and I’m not arguing the point, why does RW and even NT talk about incoming players as they do. I really have no issue with loans, the way it is now, nor do I expect our owners to spend even more than they generously do right now. I do wish the rhetoric from the club matched reality. Managing expectations in advance. I think it’s mainly about hyping up the Orient “ brand” dohnut. Aimed at keeping existing supporters interested and in NT’s case off his back I suspect and somehow giving the impression of a club that is moving forward apace to attract new supporters/ sponsors and maybe even investors. The LOFC media work their backsides off to find topics to fill the transfer void - new South Stand bar, new toilets, solar panels, celebration of South Asian culture, hospitality suite deals etc, etc. it almost feels like football is taking a back seat at times!🫤 |
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