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Post by eca on Oct 19, 2024 22:36:29 GMT
We are definitely in relegation form now, and the run goes back to March, so it isn't (just) the Summer transfer window. The worst aspect of this is that the club is trying to find investment. Who is going to be interested if it looks as if we are going back to League 2? People will still be interested to buy but the selling price will be lower
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Post by Thor on Oct 19, 2024 22:46:40 GMT
Can someone tell me did Northampton deserve to win? Sometimes you lose to the better team. Was that the case today? They were a poor team but deserved their win because we let them..And we didn’t turn up for the second half..They put their one chance away..Very poor showing by our mob..Once they scored that was it..Unfortunately Thank you for answering. our summer transfer window is proper biting us on the arse. The lack of a forward is telling, who is at fault I am not sure. RW said he wanted one, he was never given one. Perkins and Kelman are not the answer I’m afraid. It’s time to play Dan A up top, he not going to press like kelman does so change the style slightly to accommodate that and let Dan a do what we saw he could do last season and that’s score goals. kelman is Richie’s blind spot, all managers have favourites and it’s clear he is Richie’s. Kelman is not the answer and won’t be the answer either.
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Post by eca on Oct 19, 2024 22:50:41 GMT
If we changed and did not press Moncur could thrive if recalled
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Post by eca on Oct 19, 2024 22:53:24 GMT
In the past we saw a clip of a team pre /post match / training session, in the dressing room when Drinan was being praised due his work rate and all other players knew it was going to be him named by RW
RW wants a centre forward to be physically capable to press on the basis it’s our first line of defence.
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Post by redintheface on Oct 20, 2024 8:09:47 GMT
Not according to Richie. He made it plain in his interview after the game that it was pretty much all down to the players.😆 It seems like the management team are throwing their principles out of the window because they haven't worked. "We need to become a bit more basic," he said. I'm wondering if they know how to do that. Reducing the situation to the basics and rebuilding is pretty much all that’s open to RW right now. For whatever reason(s) the players we currently don’t seem able to play in the way RW wants on a consistent basis. Developing and putting into effect a style of play that they can successfully implement is essential.
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Post by Nick312 on Oct 20, 2024 8:23:00 GMT
Maybe to save our league status we should go for hoof and run.
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Post by FargO on Oct 20, 2024 9:08:23 GMT
It seems like the management team are throwing their principles out of the window because they haven't worked. "We need to become a bit more basic," he said. I'm wondering if they know how to do that. Reducing the situation to the basics and rebuilding is pretty much all that’s open to RW right now. For whatever reason(s) the players we currently don’t seem able to play in the way RW wants on a consistent basis. Developing and putting into effect a style of play that they can successfully implement is essential. Well said Red
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Post by howlingmad on Oct 20, 2024 9:41:45 GMT
We are definitely in relegation form now, and the run goes back to March, so it isn't (just) the Summer transfer window. The worst aspect of this is that the club is trying to find investment. Who is going to be interested if it looks as if we are going back to League 2? People will still be interested to buy but the selling price will be lower A fiver should cover it.
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 9:45:24 GMT
After a night of rest and calmed down a lot after yesterdays result I have not come to any more conclusions than I did yesterday.The win will obviously come and maybe a couple more,but that is over the season.We play well but cannot win,it has been so for a long time.The reckoning is unavoidable unless we get the running kick up the bum,even that may not help.
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Post by gizmo56 on Oct 20, 2024 9:54:32 GMT
I think being 100 per cent switched on for 100 per cent of the game would be a start.
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 10:12:15 GMT
I think being 100 per cent switched on for 100 per cent of the game would be a start. This is what RW tells us in his aftermatch interview,play so well for a length of time,then switch off.Perhaps the players are not fit,but I doubt that.Such a long time since we won more than two matches on the spin and I expect the resistance is low if we fall behind and the players get into inevitable mode. I have noticed a lot of teams concede just after half time maybe the break is too long,always seems like it and we should send the team out a little early in the second half.
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Post by Fisch on Oct 20, 2024 10:19:04 GMT
I saw that Dom was angry with himself for seeing his man get away to score. He needn't be, if a striker makes a dash for a space and the ball arrives at the perfect moment then a great chance has been created, there not much a defender can do about it. The real problem is that we're not scoring goals and such moments are all it needs to take the points. It's like the world's most skilful boxer, he won't win unless he attacks as well as defends.
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 10:26:42 GMT
I saw that Dom was angry with himself for seeing his man get away to score. He needn't be, if a striker makes a dash for a space and the ball arrives at the perfect moment then a great chance has been created, there not much a defender can do about it. The real problem is that we're not scoring goals and such moments are all it needs to take the points. It's like the world's most skilful boxer, he won't win unless he attacks as well as defends. Our weakness seems to be all over the field on far too many occasions.
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Post by buffalobill on Oct 20, 2024 10:52:12 GMT
I’m sure we are all disappointed to put it mildly. If we were miles off the pace in terms of skill and application, then I’d be really worried, but we’re not. We are a decent side, but we are missing that mental toughness that can grind out results and keep clean sheets. That’s one of the toughest things to turn around and when you need your most experienced players to step up and motivate those around them. I don’t go with the line that perhaps Richie is not good enough at this level, or that his tactics are wrong. We have shown we can compete and that the players are good enough , but if they are scared of failure when they walk out onto that pitch, and they only get a bollocking from the crowd or the coaches when things go wrong, then they will struggle to get their minds in the right place to turn this around. We need a bit of luck and some good finishing to get us a win and start to change the mindset. I’m hoping it’s Tuesday when I’m taking two of my shrimper mates along to the game.
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Post by osoldguy on Oct 20, 2024 19:49:25 GMT
I’m sure we are all disappointed to put it mildly. If we were miles off the pace in terms of skill and application, then I’d be really worried, but we’re not. We are a decent side, but we are missing that mental toughness that can grind out results and keep clean sheets. That’s one of the toughest things to turn around and when you need your most experienced players to step up and motivate those around them. I don’t go with the line that perhaps Richie is not good enough at this level, or that his tactics are wrong. We have shown we can compete and that the players are good enough , but if they are scared of failure when they walk out onto that pitch, and they only get a bollocking from the crowd or the coaches when things go wrong, then they will struggle to get their minds in the right place to turn this around. We need a bit of luck and some good finishing to get us a win and start to change the mindset. I’m hoping it’s Tuesday when I’m taking two of my shrimper mates along to the game. I think if the team can hang on in there and maintain League 1 status this year that should be the goal. What would be a bonus is the players raise their game for the FA cup. O's haven't been that good in recent history at beating lower league teams. If the game can be raised and advancement in the Cup to meet the Big boys that would add some additional finance to support the owners.
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Post by dohnut on Oct 20, 2024 20:57:26 GMT
I’m sure we are all disappointed to put it mildly. If we were miles off the pace in terms of skill and application, then I’d be really worried, but we’re not. We are a decent side, but we are missing that mental toughness that can grind out results and keep clean sheets. That’s one of the toughest things to turn around and when you need your most experienced players to step up and motivate those around them. I don’t go with the line that perhaps Richie is not good enough at this level, or that his tactics are wrong. We have shown we can compete and that the players are good enough , but if they are scared of failure when they walk out onto that pitch, and they only get a bollocking from the crowd or the coaches when things go wrong, then they will struggle to get their minds in the right place to turn this around. We need a bit of luck and some good finishing to get us a win and start to change the mindset. I’m hoping it’s Tuesday when I’m taking two of my shrimper mates along to the game. Mental toughness is exactly right. Our core squad is as good as most others I’ve seen. RW has yet to prove himself at this level, Oldham and Doncaster being failures. But I’m sure he can. I’m not convinced about our tactics but he knows more than me so our position at the end of the season will answer that. Primary motivation needs to come from Management. RW does his best. I’ve long felt we play with caution. Fear perhaps too strong. On those rare occasions we lose the shackles we are quite good. But something ain’t quite right and I’m not impressed when RW says on more than one occasion the players don’t do what he asks. Why not? We need a good win, I believed Stockport was that, great result. But we haven’t kicked on. Tuesday will be an excellent time to repeat that.
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Post by dennisrofe on Oct 21, 2024 9:17:31 GMT
I’m sure we are all disappointed to put it mildly. If we were miles off the pace in terms of skill and application, then I’d be really worried, but we’re not. We are a decent side, but we are missing that mental toughness that can grind out results and keep clean sheets. That’s one of the toughest things to turn around and when you need your most experienced players to step up and motivate those around them. I don’t go with the line that perhaps Richie is not good enough at this level, or that his tactics are wrong. We have shown we can compete and that the players are good enough , but if they are scared of failure when they walk out onto that pitch, and they only get a bollocking from the crowd or the coaches when things go wrong, then they will struggle to get their minds in the right place to turn this around. We need a bit of luck and some good finishing to get us a win and start to change the mindset. I’m hoping it’s Tuesday when I’m taking two of my shrimper mates along to the game. Mental toughness is exactly right. Our core squad is as good as most others I’ve seen. RW has yet to prove himself at this level, Oldham and Doncaster being failures. But I’m sure he can. I’m not convinced about our tactics but he knows more than me so our position at the end of the season will answer that. Primary motivation needs to come from Management. RW does his best. I’ve long felt we play with caution. Fear perhaps too strong. On those rare occasions we lose the shackles we are quite good. But something ain’t quite right and I’m not impressed when RW says on more than one occasion the players don’t do what he asks. Why not? We need a good win, I believed Stockport was that, great result. But we haven’t kicked on. Tuesday will be an excellent time to repeat that. Richie says we need to play more basic but talk is cheap. Times like this we need more like the Justin way of management and setting up a team. Playing basic is just not in Richies DNA and seems to me he does not like the idea of having a big rough and tough centre forward in his plans. I well remember when we played away to Sutton in the National league promotion season, in the 76th minute James Dayton got a second yellow card and was unluckily sent off after getting his ankle broken and threw his boot off in frustration, what a diabolical decision by the ref that was 1-1 and down to ten men Justin threw on Matt Harrold and went for a win and in the 90th minute the Sutton keeper went brain dead with Harrold and Bonne bearing down on him, picked up the ball and started doing a keepy uppy with the ball !!! It all happened in a flash and he brought down I think it was Bonne, penalty given which Bonne took to score in the 90th minute, what a game and typical Justin attitude of going all out for a win rather than holding on for a draw !
Sutton United 1-2 Leyton Orient Published 13 April 2019
Share Two yellows? A professional foul? A bad tackle? A headbutt?
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Post by dohnut on Oct 21, 2024 9:46:27 GMT
Mental toughness is exactly right. Our core squad is as good as most others I’ve seen. RW has yet to prove himself at this level, Oldham and Doncaster being failures. But I’m sure he can. I’m not convinced about our tactics but he knows more than me so our position at the end of the season will answer that. Primary motivation needs to come from Management. RW does his best. I’ve long felt we play with caution. Fear perhaps too strong. On those rare occasions we lose the shackles we are quite good. But something ain’t quite right and I’m not impressed when RW says on more than one occasion the players don’t do what he asks. Why not? We need a good win, I believed Stockport was that, great result. But we haven’t kicked on. Tuesday will be an excellent time to repeat that. Richie says we need to play more basic but talk is cheap. Times like this we need more like the Justin way of management and setting up a team. Playing basic is just not in Richies DNA and seems to me he does not like the idea of having a big rough and tough centre forward in his plans. I well remember when we played away to Sutton in the National league promotion season, in the 76th minute James Dayton got a second yellow card and was unluckily sent off after getting his ankle broken and threw his boot off in frustration, what a diabolical decision by the ref that was 1-1 and down to ten men Justin threw on Matt Harrold and went for a win and in the 90th minute the Sutton keeper went brain dead with Harrold and Bonne bearing down on him, picked up the ball and started doing a keepy uppy with the ball !!! It all happened in a flash and he brought down I think it was Bonne, penalty given which Bonne took to score in the 90th minute, what a game and typical Justin attitude of going all out for a win rather than holding on for a draw !
Sutton United 1-2 Leyton Orient Published 13 April 2019
Share Two yellows? A professional foul? A bad tackle? A headbutt?
We have heard too much talk Denis. Yet nothing really changes. We are poor in the final third, the solution - keep doing the same thing. I’m no tactician, never played the professional game. But been round enough blocks to see something is wrong with the way we play. And I don’t believe it’s our core players. As witnessed by the second half shambles against Northampton, don’t seem the players are convinced either. Players ability is not the issue, running yourself into the ground to little effect is. Demoralising. mentally draining. Maybe needs only a small change, starting Tuesday.
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Post by mrb on Oct 21, 2024 9:55:05 GMT
👏🏾 👏🏾well said doh
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Post by dennisrofe on Oct 21, 2024 11:10:21 GMT
Richie says we need to play more basic but talk is cheap. Times like this we need more like the Justin way of management and setting up a team. Playing basic is just not in Richies DNA and seems to me he does not like the idea of having a big rough and tough centre forward in his plans. I well remember when we played away to Sutton in the National league promotion season, in the 76th minute James Dayton got a second yellow card and was unluckily sent off after getting his ankle broken and threw his boot off in frustration, what a diabolical decision by the ref that was 1-1 and down to ten men Justin threw on Matt Harrold and went for a win and in the 90th minute the Sutton keeper went brain dead with Harrold and Bonne bearing down on him, picked up the ball and started doing a keepy uppy with the ball !!! It all happened in a flash and he brought down I think it was Bonne, penalty given which Bonne took to score in the 90th minute, what a game and typical Justin attitude of going all out for a win rather than holding on for a draw !
Sutton United 1-2 Leyton Orient Published 13 April 2019
Share Two yellows? A professional foul? A bad tackle? A headbutt?
We have heard too much talk Denis. Yet nothing really changes. We are poor in the final third, the solution - keep doing the same thing. I’m no tactician, never played the professional game. But been round enough blocks to see something is wrong with the way we play. And I don’t believe it’s our core players. As witnessed by the second half shambles against Northampton, don’t seem the players are convinced either. Players ability is not the issue, running yourself into the ground to little effect is. Demoralising. mentally draining. Maybe needs only a small change, starting Tuesday. We have yet to see if stubborn Richie is capable of changing his game plan other than being fixated with playing Kelman up top and hoping he comes good and placing all the blame on the players rather than himself for this run of bad results. Young Ollie O'Neill came from Fulham last season and did so well when playing in the left wing position, scoring goals taking on players etc. Some fans spoke of him being a top player worth a lot of money with other clubs chasing to sign him. He seemed to have a good understanding with Ruel and they played well together. This year he has lost his confidence and looks lost. We hear Richie talk and its like a stuck record on never ending repeat. Reminds me of what the Duke of Wellington said of Napoleons tactics at Waterloo. As Wellington put it in retrospect, “They came on in the same old way and we defeated them in the same old way. So Leyton Orient game plan much the same sort of story.
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