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Archibald
Oct 20, 2024 9:13:16 GMT
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Post by zimo on Oct 20, 2024 9:13:16 GMT
At the risk of sounding callous, and trust me I know about losing jobs, but with our obvious and acknowledged budget restraints, and assuming there wasn’t any related clause in his contract, can anyone tell me the sense in offering a player a contract when he is unlikely to be fit for 75% of the season, if at all?
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 9:35:07 GMT
At the risk of sounding callous, and trust me I know about losing jobs, but with our obvious and acknowledged budget restraints, and assuming there wasn’t any related clause in his contract, can anyone tell me the sense in offering a player a contract when he is unlikely to be fit for 75% of the season, if at all? Please lets not be that mercenary. |
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Archibald
Oct 20, 2024 9:58:44 GMT
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Post by zimo on Oct 20, 2024 9:58:44 GMT
At the risk of sounding callous, and trust me I know about losing jobs, but with our obvious and acknowledged budget restraints, and assuming there wasn’t any related clause in his contract, can anyone tell me the sense in offering a player a contract when he is unlikely to be fit for 75% of the season, if at all? Please lets not be that mercenary. I 100% hear you, but how many more jobs will be lost if we get relegated? |
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 10:02:27 GMT
Please lets not be that mercenary. I 100% hear you, but how many more jobs will be lost if we get relegated? I do understand, but Theo has always given that little bit more when playing,some other player,or players and we could be in agreement. |
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Archibald
Oct 20, 2024 10:08:24 GMT
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Post by Fisch on Oct 20, 2024 10:08:24 GMT
You're both right. Making tough decisions is .... Tough!
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 10:16:14 GMT
I found that out with promotion at work,dohnut knows it as well,many on here are the same.But even in business some sentiment is surely allowed.The wait for Theos return may be to our long term advantage.
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Post by eca on Oct 20, 2024 10:29:32 GMT
If we got relegated there are many reasons and extending Theo’s contract to enable him to rehabilitate himself will NOT be one of them
I believe in loyalty and when orient try and sign players in competition to other clubs the way a club treats its players will have immense positive attraction
I recall an ex orient player who I believe was our previous left back Joe Widdowson said in an interview he broke a leg and was left to make his way home on his own from the midlands - I think the club was Barnet
Good will goes a long way in life - he got a family member to assist him! Barnet did not help him to rehabilitate
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Archibald
Oct 20, 2024 10:57:11 GMT
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Post by Thor on Oct 20, 2024 10:57:11 GMT
At the risk of sounding callous, and trust me I know about losing jobs, but with our obvious and acknowledged budget restraints, and assuming there wasn’t any related clause in his contract, can anyone tell me the sense in offering a player a contract when he is unlikely to be fit for 75% of the season, if at all? all players are insured, so I'd like think he's covered or partially covered on the policy? |
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Archibald
Oct 20, 2024 11:10:09 GMT
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Post by mrb on Oct 20, 2024 11:10:09 GMT
I found that out with promotion at work,dohnut knows it as well,many on here are the same.But even in business some sentiment is surely allowed.The wait for Theos return may be to our long term advantage. I’d be surprised to see Theo back in an O’s shirt..If does come back,he’ll be nowhere near the same |
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Post by mrb on Oct 20, 2024 11:10:48 GMT
At the risk of sounding callous, and trust me I know about losing jobs, but with our obvious and acknowledged budget restraints, and assuming there wasn’t any related clause in his contract, can anyone tell me the sense in offering a player a contract when he is unlikely to be fit for 75% of the season, if at all? I get exactly where you’re coming from..And not callous at all.. |
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 11:50:36 GMT
Isn't Archibalds contract only until January ,that may solve the problem.
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Post by Thor on Oct 20, 2024 11:55:36 GMT
Doubt it contracts “normally run to 30 June”
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Post by redintheface on Oct 20, 2024 12:05:50 GMT
According to Twitter Archibald himself apparently said yesterday that the hopes to be back soon! Not sure how that squares with the “ out for months “ comments that RW made at the Meet The Manager night on Monday and backed up on the Orient Outlook podcast a couple of days later? Certainly seems communication at the club leaves something to be desired . x.com/TheoArchiballin/status/1848495425134673975 |
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Post by dohnut on Oct 20, 2024 12:47:10 GMT
It was right and proper to give Theo a 1 year deal despite only expecting half a seasons contribution. He has been a good player for us and assuming his injury clears, could well be again in the future, beyond this season. The club did the right thing. If his injury is worse then that’s the risk, but one worth taking in my opinion.
I look forward to his recovery and a new deal.
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Post by redshank on Oct 20, 2024 14:11:05 GMT
It was right and proper to give Theo a 1 year deal despite only expecting half a seasons contribution. He has been a good player for us and assuming his injury clears, could well be again in the future, beyond this season. The club did the right thing. If his injury is worse then that’s the risk, but one worth taking in my opinion. I look forward to his recovery and a new deal. I am with you on that dohnut. |
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Post by mrb on Oct 20, 2024 17:35:22 GMT
At the risk of sounding callous, and trust me I know about losing jobs, but with our obvious and acknowledged budget restraints, and assuming there wasn’t any related clause in his contract, can anyone tell me the sense in offering a player a contract when he is unlikely to be fit for 75% of the season, if at all? all players are insured, so I'd like think he's covered or partially covered on the policy? I was thinking the same Thor |
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Archibald
Oct 20, 2024 18:34:24 GMT
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Post by Fisch on Oct 20, 2024 18:34:24 GMT
all players are insured, so I'd like think he's covered or partially covered on the policy? I was thinking the same Thor Ordinarily yes, but what would the underwriter say when a player who has no ACL gets an offer for players' contract as a footballer. Who would take that risk? |
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Post by Thor on Oct 20, 2024 18:47:40 GMT
I was thinking the same Thor Ordinarily yes, but what would the underwriter say when a player who has no ACL gets an offer for players' contract as a footballer. Who would take that risk? My son asked me the other day, how was he able to play without one? I personally don’t know how he did it that’s for sure. I did read back when Richie first said it that Rugby players can exist without one as they primarily run in straight lines, with little twisting and turning. They compensate by building up the muscles around the knee. Have you seen a Rugby players legs compared to a footballer? So I’m still confused how he managed to play, his legs are not big. Plus he’s a big twister and turner. What I do know is that we miss him massively. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Oct 20, 2024 19:06:36 GMT
It was right and proper to give Theo a 1 year deal despite only expecting half a seasons contribution. He has been a good player for us and assuming his injury clears, could well be again in the future, beyond this season. The club did the right thing. If his injury is worse then that’s the risk, but one worth taking in my opinion. I look forward to his recovery and a new deal. ''Theo a 1 year deal despite only expecting half a seasons contribution'' I think that would have been very optimistic to even think he could make half a seasons contribution. Wonder if the players insurance paid by the club pays any of his wages. Anyway, it was the right and honorable thing to give Theo the extra years contract.
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Post by dennisrofe on Oct 20, 2024 19:08:01 GMT
Ordinarily yes, but what would the underwriter say when a player who has no ACL gets an offer for players' contract as a footballer. Who would take that risk? My son asked me the other day, how was he able to play without one? I personally don’t know how he did it that’s for sure. I did read back when Richie first said it that Rugby players can exist without one as they primarily run in straight lines, with little twisting and turning. They compensate by building up the muscles around the knee. Have you seen a Rugby players legs compared to a footballer? So I’m still confused how he managed to play, his legs are not big. Plus he’s a big twister and turner. What I do know is that we miss him massively. Theo is by far my favourite Leyton Orient player. |
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