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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 8:11:07 GMT
Can someone please point me to the Leyton Orient forum?
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Post by Thor on May 25, 2024 9:13:33 GMT
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Post by dohnut on May 25, 2024 16:54:44 GMT
Just read that four of Rotherham’s 5 signings have played for teams who have won league 1. Now that’s bringing in experienced players.
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Post by mrb on May 25, 2024 17:48:34 GMT
Just read that four of Rotherham’s 5 signings have played for teams who have won league 1. Now that’s bringing in experienced players. He knows how to sign players does Evans..And early too..Bravo to him
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Post by osoldguy on May 25, 2024 18:41:15 GMT
Just read that four of Rotherham’s 5 signings have played for teams who have won league 1. Now that’s bringing in experienced players. He knows how to sign players does Evans..And early too..Bravo to him I wonder if Steve Evans uses the same technique as the sketch in comedian Lee Evans shows at the 02 to get players to sign. This where he describes how a flat race jockey coaxes his horse into the starting stalls. Lee takes the role of the jockey talking to the horse soothing words and patting the Nag on the kneck, whispering all promises to the horse as the hood is applied. He even says to the horse you are going to Barbados. Once the horse is in the stall and ready to race the gates open hood comes off and the jockey says if you don't win Im going to rip your fu###king head off.
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Post by dohnut on May 26, 2024 18:04:51 GMT
Steve Evans takes the weekend off. No new signings
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Post by buffalobill on May 27, 2024 8:09:18 GMT
I suppose the question to ask is if any of those signings are ones we would be interested in. If not, then he’s not fishing in our pond.
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Post by Thor on May 27, 2024 8:34:21 GMT
The players he's signed are solid league one players, nothing exceptional, just solid and all teams need solid players.
2 were from Portsmouth Rafferty and Raggett both aged 30 which suggests pompey don't see them as being good enough for the championship, but good enough in league 1. Both won the championship.
Clarke Harris from Peterborough is 29 and I'm surprised by this move as he turned down Charlton in the Jan window to play abroad when his contract ended. He is a proven striker who is capable of scoring a bucket load, but is his attitude right? I don't know.
James a left back aged 30 from Sheffield Weds. He played 8 times last year so not quite good enough for the championship.
McWilliams aged 25 a defensive midfielder signed from Northamton. He played 36 times last season.
As you can see only the last one has time on his side with the others being senior in age and experience. Typical Evans signings. I fully expect them to be up and around it all season with his brutal style being fostered on teams.
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Post by osoldguy on May 27, 2024 9:37:37 GMT
The players he's signed are solid league one players, nothing exceptional, just solid and all teams need solid players. 2 were from Portsmouth Rafferty and Raggett both aged 30 which suggests pompey don't see them as being good enough for the championship, but good enough in league 1. Both won the championship. Clarke Harris from Peterborough is 29 and I'm surprised by this move as he turned down Charlton in the Jan window to play abroad when his contract ended. He is a proven striker who is capable of scoring a bucket load, but is his attitude right? I don't know. James a left back aged 30 from Sheffield Weds. He played 8 times last year so not quite good enough for the championship. McWilliams aged 25 a defensive midfielder signed from Northamton. He played 36 times last season. As you can see only the last one has time on his side with the others being senior in age and experience. Typical Evans signings. I fully expect them to be up and around it all season with his brutal style being fostered on teams. Had a look on rightmove website to buy property in South Yorkshire very reasonable compared to prices in the South not so for rentals. The two players from Portsmouth if they have families and want to buy then I would have thought this would have been a factor in their choice of club.
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Post by dohnut on May 27, 2024 12:40:34 GMT
I suppose the question to ask is if any of those signings are ones we would be interested in. If not, then he’s not fishing in our pond. Seems we have a different approach. Evans, as he did with Stevenage went for solid, experienced, players. As a consequence they have done really well and in fact much to my irritation did better than us last season. He is doing exactly the same with Rotherham this season and as a consequence I’d be surprised if they are not pushing on close to the top. Players able to last the distance. We in contrast look for players of a younger age with perhaps a sell on value, though with 2 years contracts that’s limited. Sort of Posh thing and they haven’t done too badly. But as a consequence we get endless rhetoric about how young players need to get used to league 1 and the efforts required to maintain performance over a full season. Evans also believes in getting much of his recruiting done early. Again different to us. I guess next year will be interesting when we start with a fully fit squad who have enjoyed a full preseason. We have some great talent but lots of gaps. As they say on the tube “mind the gap”. If we don’t then RW will have reason to complain. But I’m confident we will get in the 5 or 6 players RW wants and in good time to have a positive preseason.
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Post by redshank on May 27, 2024 12:40:35 GMT
Already lined up because they knew sometime back they would be relegated.
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Post by dohnut on May 27, 2024 13:03:05 GMT
Already lined up because they knew sometime back they would be relegated. Players and manager? Wouldn’t surprise me. But the same could be said for us, for every club. We knew we would be in league 1 and pretty certain who was going to be let go. Tbh I’d be surprised if professional clubs don’t have ideas for the following season. With Travis I’d be absolutely staggered if he didn’t install this approach in the club. Of course we pre-plan. I’d be amazed if the club didn’t have a list of possible targets based on known contract dates. And those within our range. OK for sure it’s not an exact science. Lots of variables. But these variables don’t seem to phase Evans, even at little Stevenage, hardly to biggest attraction for players. He has an amazing and positive mindset. Knows what he wants and goes for it. I just hope we know who we want and get the best of those in good time. Loans accepted as different. Listened to Sam Allardyce talking about this. At any one time he had a list of six possible players for every position in case he needed someone.
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Post by redintheface on May 27, 2024 13:04:20 GMT
I suppose the question to ask is if any of those signings are ones we would be interested in. If not, then he’s not fishing in our pond. I’m pretty sure many O’s fans would have welcomed someone of the calibre of Clarke- Harris. Raggett & Rafferty are both solid centre backs but probably no better than what we have available to us ( especially if Dan Happe accepts a new offer). Similar situation with full back Reece James. Don’t know much about the other guy tbh.
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Post by redshank on May 27, 2024 13:19:02 GMT
I know nothing of the players you mentioned,as I have said before I just wait until the window closes to see,injuries notwithstanding who and what kind of players we have signed.Plus what is said on this forum about certain players.
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Post by redintheface on May 27, 2024 13:23:39 GMT
Already lined up because they knew sometime back they would be relegated. Players and manager? Wouldn’t surprise me. But the same could be said for us, for every club. We knew we would be in league 1 and pretty certain who was going to be let go. Tbh I’d be surprised if professional clubs don’t have ideas for the following season. With Travis I’d be absolutely staggered if he didn’t install this approach in the club. Of course we pre-plan. I’d be amazed if the club didn’t have a list of possible targets based on known contract dates. And those within our range. OK for sure it’s not an exact science. Lots of variables. But these variables don’t seem to phase Evans, even at little Stevenage, hardly to biggest attraction for players. He has an amazing and positive mindset. Knows what he wants and goes for it. I just hope we know who we want and get the best of those in good time. Loans accepted as different. Listened to Sam Allardyce talking about this. At any one time he had a list of six possible players for every position in case he needed someone. I’m sure that the club plans well in advance in respect of incoming players and the fact that a “shopping list” of possibles is in place has been talked about by Ling, Wellens, Travis et al on numerous occasions. Whether it’s fair comment or not however there does often seem to be a bit of a delay in the club doing its transfer business. To what extent - if any - we retain the “transfer committee” process that has previously attracted criticism I don’t know but I do think the perception still lingers that the club is not very nimble in the market. Could be of course that the clubs budgetary constraints hamper Ling & Co and affect his ability to act quickly more than we realise?
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Post by dohnut on May 27, 2024 13:48:25 GMT
Players and manager? Wouldn’t surprise me. But the same could be said for us, for every club. We knew we would be in league 1 and pretty certain who was going to be let go. Tbh I’d be surprised if professional clubs don’t have ideas for the following season. With Travis I’d be absolutely staggered if he didn’t install this approach in the club. Of course we pre-plan. I’d be amazed if the club didn’t have a list of possible targets based on known contract dates. And those within our range. OK for sure it’s not an exact science. Lots of variables. But these variables don’t seem to phase Evans, even at little Stevenage, hardly to biggest attraction for players. He has an amazing and positive mindset. Knows what he wants and goes for it. I just hope we know who we want and get the best of those in good time. Loans accepted as different. Listened to Sam Allardyce talking about this. At any one time he had a list of six possible players for every position in case he needed someone. I’m sure that the club plans well in advance in respect of incoming players and the fact that a “shopping list” of possibles is in place has been talked about by Ling, Wellens, Travis et al on numerous occasions. Whether it’s fair comment or not however there does often seem to be a bit of a delay in the club doing its transfer business. To what extent - if any - we retain the “transfer committee” process that has previously attracted criticism I don’t know but I do think the perception still lingers that the club is not very nimble in the market. Could be of course that the clubs budgetary constraints hamper Ling & Co and affect his ability to act quickly more than we realise? Budgets of course are important. But that is a known and not a variable. We will probably know the players beyond our reach and that’s fair enough. Nothing wrong with a speculative approach but that’s it. best not waste too much time. We are a professional club operating in a market place where players values and wages are likely to fall within bands. And we have enough experience to know those we could realistically attract and those we cannot within our price range. This stuff is meat and potatoes to professional recruiters. Of course those in that band will also be in demand from clubs with similar, even smaller budgets. The bun fight begins for the best. That’s when we need to be fleet of foot, positive even aggressive. To the winner goes the better players. For the rest theynhope for some last minute bargains.
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Post by redintheface on May 27, 2024 13:50:37 GMT
I’m sure that the club plans well in advance in respect of incoming players and the fact that a “shopping list” of possibles is in place has been talked about by Ling, Wellens, Travis et al on numerous occasions. Whether it’s fair comment or not however there does often seem to be a bit of a delay in the club doing its transfer business. To what extent - if any - we retain the “transfer committee” process that has previously attracted criticism I don’t know but I do think the perception still lingers that the club is not very nimble in the market. Could be of course that the clubs budgetary constraints hamper Ling & Co and affect his ability to act quickly more than we realise? Budgets of course are important. But that is a known and not a variable. We will probably know the players beyond our reach and that’s fair enough. Nothing wrong with a speculative approach but that’s it. best not waste too much time. We are a professional club operating in a market place where players values and wages are likely to fall within bands. And we have enough experience to know those we could realistically attract and those we cannot within our price range. This stuff is meat and potatoes to professional recruiters. Of course those in that band will also be in demand from clubs with similar, even smaller budgets. The bun fight begins for the best. That’s when we need to be fleet of foot, positive even aggressive. To the winner goes the better players. For the rest theynhope for some last minute bargains. I take it you see us the O’s as one of “ the rest”?😄😄☕️
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Post by bedfordorient on May 27, 2024 13:53:20 GMT
Meanwhile Stevenage continue the Evans style with their first signing. 25 year old Northampton striker moves to the Lamex stadium. Alex Revell getting in early. Decent enough strike rate. One of the worst strikers I’ve seen at Brisbane Road in each of the past two seasons, less goal threat than Drinan. Stevenage are welcome to him.
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Post by dohnut on May 27, 2024 13:59:39 GMT
Budgets of course are important. But that is a known and not a variable. We will probably know the players beyond our reach and that’s fair enough. Nothing wrong with a speculative approach but that’s it. best not waste too much time. We are a professional club operating in a market place where players values and wages are likely to fall within bands. And we have enough experience to know those we could realistically attract and those we cannot within our price range. This stuff is meat and potatoes to professional recruiters. Of course those in that band will also be in demand from clubs with similar, even smaller budgets. The bun fight begins for the best. That’s when we need to be fleet of foot, positive even aggressive. To the winner goes the better players. For the rest theynhope for some last minute bargains. I take it you see us the O’s as one of “ the rest”?😄😄☕️ Sometimes. But to be fair we haven’t done too bad over the past 6 years. In amongst some shocking managerial appointments we have made a couple of brilliant ones and it’s there, rather than great work in the windows, that our success has come. Managers able to do miracles with what we have. Despite 3 shockers in January. Some good stuff in the windows but not too much to blow your socks off. Even a broken clock… stuff. RW has been clear about the value of a good preseason. Mentioned it several times including the cost of last season disastrous start. He has definitely set out his stall so to speak. We can only hope the committee deliver.
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Post by redintheface on May 27, 2024 14:03:44 GMT
Yes, you’re right. Hopefully the signings we need can be made sooner rather than later. I won’t be holding my breath however!😄👍
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