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Post by arrgee on Jun 7, 2024 17:26:12 GMT
Sunak is weak as a kitten, Starmer has no backbone or conviction and Davies is well just beyond a joke. Who is Davies? The plaid cymru leader? |
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Post by watfordo on Jun 7, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
I find it amusing the BREXITEERS are the first to try and escape the UK for the EU whilst kbola myself has three passports but still stick it out in Britain. Seems kbola is the true patriot after all What people voted for and what people got were so different, I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving. I believe everyone in UK should have the option of an EU passport given how much the UK paid the EU over a 45 year period. Anyone that voted for Brexit and now doesnt like how its turning out and wants to leave should actually be deported to Rwanda. |
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Post by Thor on Jun 7, 2024 18:06:40 GMT
Brexit has nothing to do with wanting to leave. It’s about having a nice climate all year round, about relaxing at a slower pace of life. It’s about shutting out the world and chilling. Nothing to do with Brexit, well not for me.
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Post by Thor on Jun 7, 2024 18:07:11 GMT
What people voted for and what people got were so different, I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving. I believe everyone in UK should have the option of an EU passport given how much the UK paid the EU over a 45 year period. Anyone that voted for Brexit and now doesnt like how its turning out and wants to leave should actually be deported to Rwanda. Rwanda was and is a scam. I think you know that as well. |
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Post by arrgee on Jun 7, 2024 18:14:16 GMT
What people voted for and what people got were so different, I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving. I believe everyone in UK should have the option of an EU passport given how much the UK paid the EU over a 45 year period. Anyone that voted for Brexit and now doesnt like how its turning out and wants to leave should actually be deported to Rwanda. Like Tony Wood. Ireland voted against Treaty of Lisbon and got concessions which meant on the second referendum they voted for it. Cameron was arrogant thinking people would not vote to leave and said there would be no second referendum, so the people defied him. Cameron was a grade one idiot to make such an ultimatum. People wanted to protest and the leave vote gave them the opportunity to do so. No one who voted to leave had a crystal ball to predict the Brexit deal would be a total sell out. |
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Post by Thor on Jun 7, 2024 18:34:25 GMT
We might have been the first, we won't be the last to leave. Europe is a busted flush.
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Post by kbola on Jun 7, 2024 19:41:44 GMT
Sunak is weak as a kitten, Starmer has no backbone or conviction and Davies is well just beyond a joke. Who is Davies? The plaid cymru leader? I believe he is attempting to name Sir Edward Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats |
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Post by watfordo on Jun 7, 2024 19:50:38 GMT
Anyone that voted for Brexit and now doesnt like how its turning out and wants to leave should actually be deported to Rwanda. Rwanda was and is a scam. I think you know that as well. I absolutely know that. |
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Post by buffalobill on Jun 8, 2024 8:01:23 GMT
I honestly have never been so despondent at an Election as I am now. If i was a young man, I would quit this country, and live abroad, so broken has it become I remember my grandparents moaning about the government of the time and saying the country had gone to the dogs, wishing for the good old days. However my Dad's mother said, 'why would you want the good old days, of poverty, rickets and war.' We don't always appreciate what we have and how far things have improved in our lifetime, looking at the past through rose tinted spectacles. |
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Post by Thor on Jun 8, 2024 8:44:59 GMT
I have never voted Labour and I very much doubt I ever will.
However, everytime I hear Mike Lynch speak I agree with what he says. He is clear, he is articulate and I do believe he believes everything he says. Politicians say what the public want to hear, Mike says what needs to be said and no sugar glossing or coating is given. I could actually vote for him as he tells the truth something mainstream politics fails to give us.
Views?
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Post by arrgee on Jun 8, 2024 10:40:34 GMT
Who is Davies? The plaid cymru leader? I believe he is attempting to name Sir Edward Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats I forgot about them. To think they were in a coalition a decade ago, but absolutely blew it with student loans and PR referendum. |
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Post by arrgee on Jun 8, 2024 10:48:34 GMT
I have never voted Labour and I very much doubt I ever will. However, everytime I hear Mike Lynch speak I agree with what he says. He is clear, he is articulate and I do believe he believes everything he says. Politicians say what the public want to hear, Mike says what needs to be said and no sugar glossing or coating is given. I could actually vote for him as he tells the truth something mainstream politics fails to give us. Views? I think he believes there is a magic money tree, because all I have heard from him is ways of spending more money. What I would like to hear from a politician of any colour is how to spend less money and how to increase the take home pay of under 40s who have graduate/post graduate loan repayments of 9%/15% on loans that have interest of rpi+3% applied to pay along with HICBC if they have children. As a recent retiree and graduate in 1980s, I paid no income tax nor NI last year. I am giving my children money to make up for the large amounts of deductions they have on their earnings. |
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Post by Thor on Jun 8, 2024 12:09:24 GMT
Education should be free, end of.
My eldest son walked into work with zero debt. My daughter will walk into work with zero debt. My youngest will have the same opportunity when his time comes as I don't agree with the government policy. I accept they are lucky as I can afford to pay it all for them, as I don't want them wallowing I debt all their life to the government.
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Post by arrgee on Jun 8, 2024 16:58:18 GMT
Education should be free, end of. My eldest son walked into work with zero debt. My daughter will walk into work with zero debt. My youngest will have the same opportunity when his time comes as I don't agree with the government policy. I accept they are lucky as I can afford to pay it all for them, as I don't want them wallowing I debt all their life to the government. I think it it wrong for an 18 year old to be laden with debt at extortionate rates for 30 years. Had I been presented with that at 18,I would never have gone to university. Back then in the early 1980s, most people my age signed on and they were a big cost to the government. It is rotten that youngsters now pay that price and there aren't any jobs when they graduate. The money has just been frittered away. There are fewer hours of lecturing and tutoring now than there was in 1980s when I got a grant to go to university. VCs and lecturers are overpaid. I have nothing against people paying for education as in tutors and private education. I have paid for plenty of training courses. I could even accept student loans if they were interest free, but they are not. Most graduates and post graduates will pay back far more in 30 years than they were given in 3. |
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Post by Thor on Jun 11, 2024 21:48:49 GMT
Farage is really stirring the pot up now.
20k earnings before paying tax
40% rate to move to 70k earnings
150k before having to register to pay vat
The lab con are running scared now!
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Post by Nick312 on Jun 11, 2024 21:59:31 GMT
Couldn't agree more with the 20k tax level.
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Post by kbola on Jun 12, 2024 5:20:17 GMT
I doubt anyone's running scared of Reform except the torys. Farage might get elected in Clacton at the 8th or 9th attempt but nationally Reform won't win much except take Conservative votes all over the place and give Labour an even bigger landslide
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Post by dohnut on Jun 12, 2024 6:09:56 GMT
Farage is really stirring the pot up now. 20k earnings before paying tax 40% rate to move to 70k earnings 150k before having to register to pay vat The lab con are running scared now! Making promises he knows he will never be asked to keep. Easy. But will be attractive to the Tories when he moves in after Rishi is dumped. Forward planning. |
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Post by dohnut on Jun 12, 2024 6:33:22 GMT
Couldn't agree more with the 20k tax level. Never really been upset about income tax. But some upward movement on the threshold levels is good for so many people. But there are so many calls on Government spending that every pound less they take has to be managed. Their choices are generally simple. Raise tax elsewhere, cut spending, manage better the money they collect or borrow. Which of course needs to be paid back out of taxes. Every TV program there will be someone saying we need more money. Which is true. The question is really from where. Businesses, the rich or Joe Public. |
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Post by Thor on Jun 21, 2024 11:25:16 GMT
It's becoming clearer and clearer by the day Labour is going to cost us a lot of money. Starmer refuses to help first time buyers now, our council tax will be next to get smashed, raid on our pensions is coming for the 2nd time under labour most probably and on it goes.
The Tories knocked on my door the other night and I had a 20 min argument with them over the state of what they have presided over. I have voted Tory all my life, but not this time as they don't deserve it. We need another candidate marked None of the Above.
Finally Labour might as well have this as their campaign slogan.
Work hard, study hard and get a good job so we can redistribute your money to someone who didn't.
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