England

Kane was not the problem, he plays in a front 3 at Bayern, whereas he’s a lone striker for England, so doesn’t play to his strengths.
Spain had a plan and structure that all their players were comfortable with. Tactically they were miles ahead of us and played some lovely attacking football.
Their pressing is brilliant and when a player gets the ball, the speed at which they move it on and their running off the ball creates so many opportunities for them.
We have 3 quality players who can all play the 10 role, Bellingham, Foden and Palmer, but how do you get them all into one team and play to their strengths.
Time for a managerial change and a rethink. Southgate has taken us as far as he can. Thank you Gareth, you’ve made us contenders again, even if you couldn’t take us over the line.

it's frustration as offensively we are as good as anyone in world football. The issue is one of tactics and instructions and the brakes are firmly applied. We are capable of taking apart any team and Spain would have got ripped to shreds if the players had been allowed to play on the front foot and take the game to them. Our manager has other ideas and to be fair to him we got to two consecutive European championship finals. Two semi finals in the world cup, so he's doing something right from a results perspective, but the fans know we are better than how we are playing. The issue is getting down a plan which allows you to be defensively sound whilst allowing your flair players to express themselves and being a defender maybe makes Southgste err on the side of caution.

Personally I'd have stuck with 3-5-2 I'd have told the wingback to press high which forces the wingers back and makes them defend which is not what they want to do. Foden and Bellinghim in the middle and go for it with Watkins and Kane up top. That's what the fans moan about the biggest stage and we didn't go for it. England fans can take defeat if we are trying and going for it, it's just when we lose and the feeling if we left something behind does grate.

It's not over and we will go again and we can and will a tournament of that I'm certain.

Southgates’ England remind me of the old Fun Boy Three song (also done with Bananarama) - It Ain't What You Do Its The Way That You Do It !! Its no good ALWAYS doing something in a boring negative way just to win a game that nobody enjoys playing in or watching to then lose the final objective because of the very same way of playing. I would much rather and be prouder if we played real attacking enjoyable football even if we went out earlier.

Came up against a better team and met them with dated tactics that didnt suit a 40 goal striker.

As much as getting to semi finals and finals is mark of some progress, we have done so by playing negative football and that negativity is what done for us against Croatia and then Italy - games we should have won. I would have replaced Southgate after Croatia.

We have talent but no discernible system of play. We squeeze players into unsuitable positions just because of who they are and we have done that for years and years. I dont see what the issue is of leaving someone on the bench if the system doesnt suit them. We can bring them on at any stage with all the freshness and want to prove themselves that comes with not being a starter.

We’ll never win anything this way. Only when we have someone ruthless to a system will we bring it home.

Spain are the daddies when it comes to football at the moment. They also have the European Cup winners in Real Madrid, the women’s World Cup winners and the top two English clubs managed by Spaniards. Even outside football, Alcaraz is probably the best tennis player in the world, they dominate European basketball and have two of the top six cyclists in the Tour de France. How do they do it?

one of the issues for football is we only about something like 2,500 UEFA B coaches and they have 24,000 so the coaching at a younger level is much higher than here. The knock on effect is felt at the A level as the number is obviously higher still. We are behind the curve at coaching and it will take sometime to catch them up. However, our youngsters at a professional level theu are as technically good as anyone, we just need more coaches to improve it further.

Osoldguy.  Some of us have been round the block and lived through all of this, though will admit to liking Denis Healy at the time, thinking he may one day make a decent leader. But for sure, you have very good reason to feel as you do.  

It remains to be seen if Labour embrace socialist policy, preferring public ownership rather than private ownerships for example. A key aspect of socialism. And I will admit, I don’t like many of our utilities being foreign owned. Though I’ve yet to be convinced that public rather than private ownership is any better, nor whether the Government can afford the levels of investment needed and currently privately funded. Ideology vs practicality. Time will tell.

From what I’ve seen, I agree.