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Post by eca on Apr 30, 2024 5:52:55 GMT
Been supporting since 1962
Yes RW tactically appears to achieve great results in his short time here but life goes on and unfortunately the club would just have to find a replacement person - if he goes or has gone.
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 30, 2024 6:00:36 GMT
The potential situation is further worsened by Matt Harrold's depature imho Yes pity Matt Harrold has gone, he would have been a dependable safe pare of hands to full back on post RW ! Richie did seem genuinely disappointed that Matt was going. Was it because he thought he might be off to Barnsley and at least the O’s could fall back on Matt once he’d gone? |
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 30, 2024 6:03:27 GMT
So if you are Richie and you’ve been told you won’t have a top 6 budget next season, why not say to the owners you are interested in pastures new.
Part of the negotiations for his new contract and pressure on the owners to uplift the budget?
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Post by eca on Apr 30, 2024 6:35:05 GMT
So if you are Richie and you’ve been told you won’t have a top 6 budget next season, why not say to the owners you are interested in pastures new. Part of the negotiations for his new contract and pressure on the owners to uplift the budget? The ethos or mission statement is LOFC are aiming to be a sustainable club. Therefore LOFC cannot “uplift the budget” to satisfy RW if what he been allocated is deemed insufficient for his success aspirations- it would be a shame but that the reality of life. |
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Post by Thor on Apr 30, 2024 7:05:22 GMT
Didn't he throw his toys out the pram at Doncaster over the budget?
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Post by billericayo on Apr 30, 2024 7:23:05 GMT
On what basis do bookmakers reduce the odds when it’s supposed to be all private and subjective. How would they know - all this is speculation is not in anyone’s interest as some of the bookies named managers are actually currently employed. I mean it’s not like a horse or team with form Justin Himself said it was he who approached the club first, Ling also mentioned we thought he was out of our reach, hence why we didn't chase him. Don't know about Richie though. |
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Post by dennisrofe on Apr 30, 2024 7:43:20 GMT
Yes pity Matt Harrold has gone, he would have been a dependable safe pare of hands to full back on post RW ! Richie did seem genuinely disappointed that Matt was going. Was it because he thought he might be off to Barnsley and at least the O’s could fall back on Matt once he’d gone? Doubt it, Richie does not seem to be a very sentimental type of man to me ? |
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Post by eca on Apr 30, 2024 8:05:11 GMT
Richie did seem genuinely disappointed that Matt was going. Was it because he thought he might be off to Barnsley and at least the O’s could fall back on Matt once he’d gone? Doubt it, Richie does not seem to be a very sentimental type of man to me ? I think that may be rather harsh on RW as he did show sincerity re Justin and also when talking about the chap that died whilst the Lincoln match was played |
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Post by redintheface on Apr 30, 2024 8:16:08 GMT
Doubt it, Richie does not seem to be a very sentimental type of man to me ? I think that may be rather harsh on RW as he did show sincerity re Justin and also when talking about the chap that died whilst the Lincoln match was played You can be sincere without being sentimental. |
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Post by eca on Apr 30, 2024 8:19:44 GMT
I think that may be rather harsh on RW as he did show sincerity re Justin and also when talking about the chap that died whilst the Lincoln match was played You can be sincere without being sentimental. I understand what you are saying but I see the feelings of character being portrayed having similar definitions though technically different by the English Language |
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Post by eca on Apr 30, 2024 8:46:10 GMT
Barnsley will probably issue a statement re their new manager very soon - then the answer is there for all of us.
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 30, 2024 9:28:18 GMT
So if you are Richie and you’ve been told you won’t have a top 6 budget next season, why not say to the owners you are interested in pastures new. Part of the negotiations for his new contract and pressure on the owners to uplift the budget? The ethos or mission statement is LOFC are aiming to be a sustainable club. Therefore LOFC cannot “uplift the budget” to satisfy RW if what he been allocated is deemed insufficient for his success aspirations- it would be a shame but that the reality of life. Agree that sustainability is part of the boards ethos, but success on the pitch often brings that about. Lose Richie and potentially we could go through a period of mediocrity and fans drift away. So by tinkering at the edges, i.e board members sponsoring events or players, you could bring in more cash to the budget. Short term I know. |
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Post by osoldguy on Apr 30, 2024 9:36:49 GMT
The ethos or mission statement is LOFC are aiming to be a sustainable club. Therefore LOFC cannot “uplift the budget” to satisfy RW if what he been allocated is deemed insufficient for his success aspirations- it would be a shame but that the reality of life. Agree that sustainability is part of the boards ethos, but success on the pitch often brings that about. Lose Richie and potentially we could go through a period of mediocrity and fans drift away. So by tinkering at the edges, i.e board members sponsoring events or players, you could bring in more cash to the budget. Short term I know. RW is an employee of LOFC if the board have set the budgets for the new season he should either accept those conditions or move on to another club where he feels he has more control. |
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Post by dohnut on Apr 30, 2024 10:08:09 GMT
Barnsley will probably issue a statement re their new manager very soon - then the answer is there for all of us. And it won’t be Richie! Mind you he is now 1/3 on! So I could be wrong, but I’m not. Is that a case of hope over reality? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2024 10:33:43 GMT
Of course a bigger budget would be appealing to him, but if Richie needs a top 6 budget to finish in the top 6 then he's not the one to he trusted with it, sorry.
The board want to get this club running sustainably. That means to get promoted we need a manager who can perform above par. If Richie can't do that then it's better to say our goodbyes now.
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Post by Thor on Apr 30, 2024 11:33:36 GMT
Of course a bigger budget would be appealing to him, but if Richie needs a top 6 budget to finish in the top 6 then he's not the one to he trusted with it, sorry. The board want to get this club running sustainably. That means to get promoted we need a manager who can perform above par. If Richie can't do that then it's better to say our goodbyes now. But he has over performed the budget this season. |
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Post by eca on Apr 30, 2024 11:56:14 GMT
I believe we can all stop this conjecture and RW is staying and was never actually ever going.
I say this because if you look at their retained list statement his words are integrated in this - why would a club knowing RW was going bother to have that sort of statement
It would be exceptionally stupid of the club to issue that retained list statement worded that way if RW was not going to be here.
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Post by ostralia on Apr 30, 2024 12:09:56 GMT
Of course a bigger budget would be appealing to him, but if Richie needs a top 6 budget to finish in the top 6 then he's not the one to he trusted with it, sorry. The board want to get this club running sustainably. That means to get promoted we need a manager who can perform above par. If Richie can't do that then it's better to say our goodbyes now. But he has over performed the budget this season. Barely. Mid table budget and we finished mid table. Upper mid table sure, but still mid table. It’s not exactly Leicester winning the premier league. And I’m not saying this to be negative Lord knows there’s plenty of managers who underachieve on their budget (probably more than who don’t actually I’d reckon), so achieving budgeted results is a valuable skill in itself. But I don’t think Ritchie is a manager who can work miracles on a limited budget like some can. He’s not that type of manager. |
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Post by mayland0s on Apr 30, 2024 12:36:27 GMT
Agree that sustainability is part of the boards ethos, but success on the pitch often brings that about. Lose Richie and potentially we could go through a period of mediocrity and fans drift away. So by tinkering at the edges, i.e board members sponsoring events or players, you could bring in more cash to the budget. Short term I know. RW is an employee of LOFC if the board have set the budgets for the new season he should either accept those conditions or move on to another club where he feels he has more control. Absolutely this ! |
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Post by osoldguy on Apr 30, 2024 12:39:49 GMT
But he has over performed the budget this season. Barely. Mid table budget and we finished mid table. Upper mid table sure, but still mid table. It’s not exactly Leicester winning the premier league. And I’m not saying this to be negative Lord knows there’s plenty of managers who underachieve on their budget (probably more than who don’t actually I’d reckon), so achieving budgeted results is a valuable skill in itself. But I don’t think Ritchie is a manager who can work miracles on a limited budget like some can. He’s not that type of manager. The last manager of note that I can recall that was asked to work with a modest budget was Mick McCarthy at Ipswich. He assembled a squad of ragtail and bobtail, free transfers, naughty misdemeanor players. In doing this he managed to keep the club in the Division they were in at the time. |
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